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E4NASH
02-19-2010, 05:57 PM
Newb here...was wondering if you all can give me your opinions on a direct drive Outback vs. the V Drive. We are looking for a boat. I found what seems to be a good deal on an 07 Outback. It has a tower, racks, and rear ballast. This will be my and my family's first boat. I mean I have had several PWCs and have been around boats all my life but never have I owned my own boat. I wakeboard a little and when I say a little I mean I'm able to get up and ride but haven't even tried the most basic of tricks but would really like to get into it. I have three young kids so the boat would be used for everything....tubing, wakeboarding, skiing, kneeboarding, etc, and riding around on the lake. We have a good bit of friends, none of whom wakeboard, who will go along as well when the kids don't. I think for the price and it being a newer boat that it would be a great entry into this market and then maybe in 5 years or so trade up to a bigger V drive.

I have always been weary of the DD because of the Motor in the middle of the boat and it seems to take up a lot of seating room. But have been told it offers more floor space for walking around and stuff. I'm sure many of you have different opinions so please school the Newb as this is my first entry into inboards.

-E

saberworks
02-19-2010, 06:05 PM
I have a closed bow direct drive mastercraft prostar 190. It's way too small inside for a family. Might be better with an open bow but even then, having the engine in the middle is annoying. We're looking to upgrade to a v-drive, but truthfully we were happy with the direct drive for the first few years. I think it's harder to sell a direct drive.

moombadaze
02-19-2010, 06:58 PM
E, welcome to Moomba, with what you are discribing for use I would steer you to a v-dive for family use and storage. Ive had both ddrive and vdrive boats.

DOCDRS
02-19-2010, 08:13 PM
I've had both as well, and unless you want to do alot of long line barefooting or slalom i'd go vdrive all the way.......back when i bought my dd , vdrives and wakeboarding were n their infancy......wow what a difference 10 years makes
just my .02

Hoopskier
02-19-2010, 10:44 PM
Well I currently have a 03 Outback direct drive. I don’t have any experience with a v-drive. I would think that a DD would be cheaper to purchase because its one less major component in the boat and less desired in today’s wakeboarding/wake surfing market. I am slightly bias towards a DD just because that is my preference. With a family an open bow is a must. Although if I were looking to buy again I would definitely look into a v-drive. The v-drive would be easier to be social when in the boat; everyone sits closer and not divided by the engine.

For me when I’m out in the boat (my DD) the area behind the driver’s seat is used to store my daily trip stuff.

Not being a wakeboard expert but just from looking at what’s on the market the v-drive is the way to go if you ever want to get into serious wakeboarding or surfing.

In either choice you can’t go wrong, you’re getting a great boat.

deerfield
02-19-2010, 11:33 PM
I found what seems to be a good deal on an 07 Outback. It has a tower, racks, and rear ballast. This will be my and my family's first boat....I have three young kids so the boat would be used for everything....tubing, wakeboarding, skiing, kneeboarding, etc, and riding around on the lake.

E4NASH - Like you, I have three kids, although they are older. We ski, wakeboard, and tube. Our boat is an '07 Outback. Bought it new with tower, racks, and ballast. I love this boat and the direct drive. The motor box offers another place to sit for our crew when wakeboarding. The racks and tower help get the floor free of towels, lifejackets, and skis/wakeboards. If you load it up with people you are inevitably going to take water over the bow. Of all the models in the Moomba lineup, I think the Outback may have the least amount of freeboard. It's been a great boat for us and I plan to keep her for many years. - Deerfield

deepcove
02-20-2010, 12:32 AM
I have a DD with an open bow. With 2 kids there is no way I would want a closed bow DD. One of the reasons I went with a DD was the motor is easy to work on without being a contortionist. I like to store all my wet stuff in a rubber maid bin behind the drivers seat which still leaves the back seat area, left side of the motor and observers seat open. I have a buddy with a 20SSV and believe it or not there is less usable floor space with the same bin in his boat beacuse of the wrap around seating. I realize I am making a comparasin to a small VD. The down side to my DD is I like to surf and there is no way of hiding 2000 lbs ballast!

Also I would trade my boat in a heart beat for a 210 Super Air!

BensonWdby
02-20-2010, 08:39 AM
Part of the consideration is whether you trailer the boat or have a place on the lake. We have a lake place and the lake is small. We rarely carrie a cooler because we can all grab something out of the fridge before we go. For skiing we put as few people in the boat as possible and swap out riders on shore.

I am a serious skier, rarely pull wakeboarders, and would probably never consider a V drive. If I wanted all the weight in the back I would have bought a stern drive. There is a reason that DD are used for pulling tournaments. But an open bow is a necessity with a DD for those rare moments when we have a boat full, or the ladies want to stretch out as we putt around the lake.

jmvotto
02-20-2010, 08:49 AM
Thinking of multiple sports and kids i would lean toward the OBV, we have an 07 and love it. Think of what type of lake you will run on as well. the OB sits very low in the water and willl ride extremely rough if you get rollers around vs the OBV. I was always a slalom skier, but now we board and surf more. but the skiis do come out.

my .02

Sled491
02-20-2010, 10:45 PM
YOU Need to consider the lakes you will visit and what your goals are. For now it seems like the Outback will work for you. If the lakes or rivers you will run are on the smaller side this is also pointing you towards the outback. We live on a smaller lake, don't trailer, and have other boats to use. As well as being a hard core skier my kids are small enough to do anything behind the outback.

If however you are going to be on bigger waters, your kids are getting to be teens and want to be the next big air champs of the lake, and your not really hard core anything just want to recreate than consider the V Drive.

DOCDRS
02-20-2010, 11:05 PM
Sled has some valid points.

E4NASH
02-22-2010, 12:15 AM
All, thanks for all the input I really appreciate it. The lake that we generally go to is about 2 hours away. It is on the Tennessee River and is a pretty large lake and it can get pretty rough out there. there are some closer smaller ones. either way I wuld be trailering it each time unless I get in with a place at the larger lake and store it there. My local dealer here is offering me a great price on a hold over '08 OBV that is fully loaded. I saw it at the local Boat show this weekend. Right when I think I made up my mind he calls and sends my head spinning around. Basically its about price at this point. Do I want to go with a used boat that is MUCH cheaper and only a year older but has 400+ hours or do I want to go with a new one with a full 4 year warranty and v-Drive which is more of what I would like to have. Tough call....

E4NASH
02-22-2010, 11:38 AM
"which is more of what I would like to have".

Go with your heart and 1st instinct.

Go V.


Wife and wallet says to go with the cheaper one since it's our first boat then in 5 years when the kids are older upgrade to a bigger one.

Heart and first instinct says go V.

jmvotto
02-22-2010, 02:05 PM
Think about the price difference and the hours on the older boat could equal problems = less time on the water. if the differnce is say 15k then is a tough decision. if is 5k you have your original answer..... my .02

wolfeman131
02-22-2010, 02:15 PM
Wife and wallet says to go with the cheaper one since it's our first boat then in 5 years when the kids are older upgrade to a bigger one.

Heart and first instinct says go V.

NASH - you won't be able to wait 5 yrs. trust me. I bought my '08 OBV new and am already looking to upgrade.

JV is also dead on that you have a better chance spending more repairing the older boat versus what you think you're going to save.

GO WITH THE NEW BOAT!

Birdman_08_LSV
02-22-2010, 03:59 PM
I got $1 that says two years from now, you'll be wishing you had purchased the V

Ed has a point. You don't want to find yourself wanting/needing more boat in just two years. But, on the flip side you don't want to have more boat then you needed sitting on the side of the house never getting used. I would say that if you are going to use the boat a lot and plan to get your money worth out of it ... then go big and get a V. :mrgreen:

wolfeman131
02-22-2010, 04:51 PM
Wife and wallet says to go with the cheaper one since it's our first boat then in 5 years when the kids are older upgrade to a bigger one.

NASH - sorry, I should have thought to provide this advice sooner.

when I approached my wife about getting a new boat, they key to getting her to say, "Do it!" was to mention how awful it would be to have a breakdown in the middle of the lake with the kids (they were 6 months, 6 yrs & 8 yrs old) and nobody around to help us out. The old I/O had to be towed in a few times, so it was a real easy deal to close.

Good luck!

jmb
02-22-2010, 05:27 PM
I just finished putting in an impeller, cap, rotor, greased the steering linkage and rudder. Took no time at all. Thats what I like about the direct drive. Sat on the floor for most of it.

bashton
02-22-2010, 08:59 PM
We own a 2008 DD Outback that we use quite a bit for both slalom and wakeboarding that we bought new. It was always my dream to have a DD for skiing, and my son (co-owner) started out with a passion for wakeboarding. (I had never been on a wakeboard at that point.)

Anyway, we both absolutely LOVE our DD Outback. He now spends more time on a ski while I find myself on the wakeboard about half of the time.

We did purchase a larger ballast bag for wakeboarding, but for skiing there is nothing better than a DD. Also, the handling is unsurpassed. Those are the best points.

You do give up some storage and room and the low freeboard means the occasional water over the bow, but I wouldn't trade my Outback for anything at this point. We have about 200 hours put on over two seasons. For us, we rarely have more than a few people on board, so the room issue is not a big one for us. With four on board and one being towed, everyone is comfortable.

We just went to the boat show and again, left convinced that we not only made the right choice, but also see no need to trade up. Sure...the room would be nice but after driving several V-drives, including a few Supra's, a Supreme and several others, I can tell you that none of them come close to handling as well as our DD Outback. The only thing that really caught our eye at this years show was the new closed-bow DD Supreme, but at 50k+, we'll pass.

Picture the DD Outback as the Corvette, while the V-drive is the Camaro.

Anyway, buy as much boat as you can afford that best suits your needs, but be sure to DRIVE any boat before you buy it, because there is a major differance among the manufacturers and some of the neat looking boats are real tanks.

Bashton

E4NASH
02-23-2010, 01:46 PM
With only the Standard Ballast bag in the rear how is the wake size with the direct drive? Obviously if it is not filled its gonna be pretty flat but whe filled is it decent? We don't do much wakeboarding like I said I just started last year but it would be great to get better and do a few things. We like to tube and kneeboard though. However I would like to try wake Surfing and imagine I would need an additional bag with a direct drive.

moombadaze
02-23-2010, 02:35 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^thats not me or my daughter or Dk causing that outback to sit so low:cool:

wolfeman131
02-23-2010, 02:40 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^thats not me or my daughter or Dk causing that outback to sit so low:cool:

i read Ed's post and thought your family might be a new option for 2010 . . .

moombadaze
02-23-2010, 04:30 PM
i read Ed's post and thought your family might be a new option for 2010 . . .


Can be, ready to help any new buyer breakin there new boat--avaible only july 5th-july 11th on Lake Sinclair Georgia--this is option that is payed for after taking delivery in beer

jmb
02-23-2010, 05:49 PM
I was on a Frigate and then on to the Enterprise. Retired in '96. Did a quick 20. Glad to hear that there is some sailors on this site.

kaneboats
02-23-2010, 06:55 PM
Can be, ready to help any new buyer breakin there new boat--avaible only july 5th-july 11th on Lake Sinclair Georgia--this is option that is payed for after taking delivery in beer

Just might take you up on that one. Does it have to be new or can it be new to me?

moombadaze
02-23-2010, 07:38 PM
Just might take you up on that one. Does it have to be new or can it be new to me?

new or new to you---still new :)

Sled491
02-23-2010, 08:32 PM
Glad I'm bringing the Diesel, sounds like we're gonna need the 8ft box to haul all the beverages you southeners consume :D

moombadaze
02-23-2010, 08:35 PM
Glad I'm bringing the Diesel, sounds like we're gonna need the 8ft box to haul all the beverages you southeners consume :D

Kaneboats can give you some pointers for loading the outback also:D

moombadaze
02-23-2010, 08:36 PM
oh, Im from Washington-the state, actually very few natives down here:rolleyes:

Sled491
02-23-2010, 08:37 PM
He will be my brother in arms as the only other Outback being represented. But I think with our boat the DD's will have it!

Sled491
02-23-2010, 08:38 PM
oh, Im from Washington-the state, actually very few natives down here:rolleyes:

Heck I'm a transplant myself, except where I'm from WI is considered down south :D

Sled491
02-23-2010, 09:02 PM
Oh well, no harm no foul.

Ian Brantford
02-23-2010, 09:13 PM
Newb here...was wondering if you all can give me your opinions on a direct drive Outback vs. the V Drive. We are looking for a boat. I found what seems to be a good deal on an 07 Outback. It has a tower, racks, and rear ballast. This will be my and my family's first boat. I mean I have had several PWCs and have been around boats all my life but never have I owned my own boat.

You have two main decisions: DD versus V and new versus used. It is good that you have some experience. The less experience that you have, the more reason to buy used... because you'll suffer less stress when you make some mistake.

Once you own your own boat, boating will cease to be something that you could choose to do among many other things on a given day. It will become something that you will be compelled to do, and any alternative activity will be weighed against it.


I wakeboard a little and when I say a little I mean I'm able to get up and ride but haven't even tried the most basic of tricks but would really like to get into it.

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: N/A. You'll be boating more. You will thus get more practise and acquire skills. You don't want to buy a boat (or gear) that has any limiting factor on your ability to progress. This was also a reason why I went straight from an 18' I/O straight to the Moomba XLV.


I have three young kids so the boat would be used for everything....

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: Old. You want the kids to be within arms reach, with no obstacle course. Kids have a way of doing lots of minor property damage too.


tubing

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: N/A. When adults are tubing, "adult" towing means creating a big wave, possibly two intersecting ones, and dragging them over it. Prepare for water over the bow in the outback.


wakeboarding,

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: N/A. You'll want the better ability to store and balance ballast.


skiing,

DDvsV: DD. NewVsOld: N/A


kneeboarding,

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: N/A. While beginner kneeboarding favours flat water like skiing, more advanced riding will involve jumping, like wakeboarding.


etc, and riding around on the lake.

DDvsV: DD. NewVsOld: N/A. Neither boat is really a cruiser or runabout.


We have a good bit of friends,

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: N/A. Greater numbers of people mean more socialising. You want the one big open area, sundeck, and bow (separate area for the exclusive seating).


none of whom wakeboard,

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: N/A. Unless they are hard-core skiiers, hey'll want to try wakeboarding.


who will go along as well when the kids don't. I think for the price and it being a newer boat that it would be a great entry into this market and then maybe in 5 years or so trade up to a bigger V drive.

DDvsV: V. NewVsOld: old. If you know that you are going with a V in the future, you already know that the DD is unsuited to your needs. For you, there seems to be little point in going for a DD today.

The DD is a specialised configuration that favours people who mostly ski and who don't bring a large contingent on board. The V supports most other sports better and handles a crowd -- it's multipurpose. In your other posting, you said that you would be towing the boat to the marina every time, so this means that you are loading up with all people and gear for the day, so there won't be much rotating of crew. I think that a V-drive is the one for you.

Have you considered the LSV? As of 2006, it has a deeper (and I think slightly larger) hull, giving it more interior comfort, less risk of a small child heading overboard, and better handling in choppy water.

Laz
02-23-2010, 11:09 PM
Sounds to me like you would be happier in a V-drive or even maybe an I/O. Both are better general purpose boats.

I have a 2007 Outback DD and couldn't imagine owning anything by a dedicated slalom machine. We have the tower and ballast but hardly ever use it.

The Outback is a world class slalom boat, but it likes its waters to be calm. For general watersports, I think a V-drive is better (just not for me). I/O's are the cheapest option.

Laz

deerfield
02-23-2010, 11:24 PM
I have a 2007 Outback DD and couldn't imagine owning anything by a dedicated slalom machine. We have the tower and ballast but hardly ever use it.


On the other hand, we have the same boat (2007 Outback) as does Laz and use both the tower and ballast LOTS. Boat works well for all of our needs: skiing, boarding, and tubing. But, again, it likes calmer water and has been known to take water over the bow.

Hoopskier
02-24-2010, 02:50 AM
After reading most comments, it seems most are leaning towards a v-drive. Two things that I learned from my parents about buying expensive items and boats. 1st Buy what you really want the first time it will be cheaper than trying to make another purchase in a few years. 2nd, Buy the most boat you can afford. That what you won't say, I wish I would have.

I wouldn't be shy about looking at a used boat. Lots of good boats to be had. Save your money instead of taking the financial hit of a new one. When it comes to suggesting a boat to fit you style, maybe a Mobius Ls. Still in the moomba family so you know you are getting a good value. Handles like a DD, cause it is and had a better wake for boarding? Just a thought. It just depends on how you want your interior laid out and how much you want to spend.

iwakeboard
02-24-2010, 09:34 AM
I owned a 17' I/O as my first boat, I bought it as a repo when I was in college. Floor was rotting and the engine was sketchy at best. With that said, I probably had the most fun of my life on that boat for the 4 years I owned it. When I was at UT we had a waterski/wakeboard team where we'd get a free Mastercraft X7 every year. The X7 is a 19.7' direct drive, and I think it solely turned me off to them. The skiers absolutely loved it and the boarders would just throw as much weight as possible in there and watch the gas gauge tick down like a seconds-clock. It wasn't fun to sit more than 4 or 5 people, and if you wanted to add more weight than the 700lbs factory ballast you would have to put sacks all over the floor.

I have a 24SSV now, couldn't imagine ever going back to a d-drive. I'd think long term when making this decision and go with the outback v.

phospher
02-24-2010, 10:02 AM
I have to disagree with a lot of you here. Everyone always thinks they need the hugest wake which is only provided by a V-drive. Now, with the exception of surfing and pro level riding you don't really need that big of a wake. I have a 1982 American Skier that throws a very small wake(relative to v-drives) but because I know how to hit the wake and pop correctly I can still go higher than most people on my lake on their V-drives. Behind my American Skier (18ft Closed Bow DD) I can front roll, back roll, tantrum, 360's, blind side 180's etc.. I also use to wakeboard behind a sea ray IO and was able to do several flips behind that as well. And I'm not talking about head sciming the water.

I recently bought a 2008 Outback DD for a few reasons.

1) A lot more room than my 82 American Skier. I have a 18 month old.
2) An actual stereo on the Outback! This is a huge upgrade for us :)
3) Tower. The past few years I started wakeskating exclusively and don't do much of anything else. For wakeskating I don't need a huge wake as I can already go as big as I need behind any inboard DD. I used a Skylon on my Skier but a tower is so much better and looks cool too.
4) Fuel injection. This was a big one too, I wanted the reliability and turn key start up of a fuel injection so that my wife can pull the boat off the trailer while I park the truck. It was to much work that she did not know how to do to start and warm up our cold blooded 4 barrel carb on the Skier.
5) Classic Direct Drive looks and handling. Now, I don't think anything beats the looks of a closed bow ski boat but if you want the extra room a Open Bow Direct Drive is second best. For me, half the fun of owning an inboard is driving. I love to pull my friends and family and as part of that I want the sports car handling and speed of a direct drive.
6)Direct drives are easier to work on and the transmissions are a heck of a lot cheaper if I ever need a new one.


No offense to anyone here... but I think a main reason why everyone needs a V-drive is because it's a lot easier for people who are not very good at wakeboarding to launch of a bigger wake then to correctly jump a wake.

I'm planning on wakeskating behind my 08 outback DD with a 460lb fat sac and with that I imagine the wake will be a lot bigger than I had with my American Skier. My Skier only weighs 2200lbs.


Now, as proof you don't need a HUGE wake from a vdrive I highly recommend you all watch this old byerly video of him behind an Outboard barefoot boat. That's right outboard which usually has the smallest wake of them all. With all that said, I will again say that wake size is over rated.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8159472377447193948#

iwakeboard
02-24-2010, 10:14 AM
I have to disagree with a lot of you here. Everyone always thinks they need the hugest wake which is only provided by a V-drive. Now, with the exception of surfing and pro level riding you don't really need that big of a wake. I have a 1982 American Skier that throws a very small wake(relative to v-drives) but because I know how to hit the wake and pop correctly I can still go higher than most people on my lake on their V-drives.


Sure, proper technique is the most important aspect of going big, but you're drawing a contrapositive. Big wake does not mean you lack the skill, just as a lack of skill doesn't mean you have a big wake. They're independent, you can have skill and have a big wake, just as you can have skill and have a small wake. I remember several years ago with my 17' I/O we were in my cove and a Mastercraft X-45 was there, the guy gets out and is learning how to do w2w while one of my friends was throwing backrolls and tantrums from my little boat. Sure, it felt like a battle-won at the time, but that guy was having fun and eventually he'll be able to progress. As someone who learned behind a hardly-existent wake and now has a big v-drive, I agree with you, I wouldn't be able to do the things I can do now without that little boat, because I HAD to learn how to properly edge if I wanted to clear the wake. But, it's something anyone can do behind any boat, and some people may want to get that advantage of having a v-drive for progressing. They can still learn proper technique that way (and they basically have to if they want to progress into trip-flips and such).

phospher
02-24-2010, 10:17 AM
Sure, I agree 100% with everything you said. My only point is that you don't absolutely need a v-drive to go big wakeboarding.

iwakeboard
02-24-2010, 10:22 AM
Sure, I agree 100% with everything you said. My only point is that you don't absolutely need a v-drive to go big wakeboarding.

Yup, I agree.

Sled491
02-24-2010, 07:07 PM
I agree with Phospher 100% no offense to anyone on the boards, but I have seen on our lake and many lakes that I visit that big boats are used to compensate for little talent. I've seen guys at cable parks to better flips than anyone on our lake with a V Drive, and unfortunately that includes friends of mine with big Supra's. I believe the Outback is one heck of a boat and we love ours. But I also love the LSV and the Supra SSV's. I would never begin to tell anyone you can get a great ski wake behind a V Drive, but then how many people really ski at a level that it really matters.

Buy the boat that will make you happy. The 08 Outback V was smallish like the Outback, just it was a V (low freeboard). Who ever said this boat was there last? I sure didn't, I like the idea of someday getting another new boat, just like this one replaced the one before that I bought new.

I'm starting to not make sense, so I'll stop.

Doesn't matter which, just get a boat and take your family to the lake :)

bashton
02-28-2010, 10:21 AM
I have to disagree with a lot of you here. Everyone always thinks they need the hugest wake which is only provided by a V-drive. Now, with the exception of surfing and pro level riding you don't really need that big of a wake. I have a 1982 American Skier that throws a very small wake(relative to v-drives) but because I know how to hit the wake and pop correctly I can still go higher than most people on my lake on their V-drives. Behind my American Skier (18ft Closed Bow DD) I can front roll, back roll, tantrum, 360's, blind side 180's etc.. I also use to wakeboard behind a sea ray IO and was able to do several flips behind that as well. And I'm not talking about head sciming the water.

I recently bought a 2008 Outback DD for a few reasons.

1) A lot more room than my 82 American Skier. I have a 18 month old.
2) An actual stereo on the Outback! This is a huge upgrade for us :)
3) Tower. The past few years I started wakeskating exclusively and don't do much of anything else. For wakeskating I don't need a huge wake as I can already go as big as I need behind any inboard DD. I used a Skylon on my Skier but a tower is so much better and looks cool too.
4) Fuel injection. This was a big one too, I wanted the reliability and turn key start up of a fuel injection so that my wife can pull the boat off the trailer while I park the truck. It was to much work that she did not know how to do to start and warm up our cold blooded 4 barrel carb on the Skier.
5) Classic Direct Drive looks and handling. Now, I don't think anything beats the looks of a closed bow ski boat but if you want the extra room a Open Bow Direct Drive is second best. For me, half the fun of owning an inboard is driving. I love to pull my friends and family and as part of that I want the sports car handling and speed of a direct drive.
6)Direct drives are easier to work on and the transmissions are a heck of a lot cheaper if I ever need a new one.


No offense to anyone here... but I think a main reason why everyone needs a V-drive is because it's a lot easier for people who are not very good at wakeboarding to launch of a bigger wake then to correctly jump a wake.

I'm planning on wakeskating behind my 08 outback DD with a 460lb fat sac and with that I imagine the wake will be a lot bigger than I had with my American Skier. My Skier only weighs 2200lbs.


Now, as proof you don't need a HUGE wake from a vdrive I highly recommend you all watch this old byerly video of him behind an Outboard barefoot boat. That's right outboard which usually has the smallest wake of them all. With all that said, I will again say that wake size is over rated.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8159472377447193948#

Bingo!

Bottom line; drive it and decide what feels the best for you. Like I said, there is a differance and chances are you will form an opinion as to what works best for you once behind the wheel.

For me, I would have a hard time giving up the incredible handling of my DD Outback, even with the added advantage of having the additional room. But then, cruising around with a boat load of people isn't my thing.

Bashton

pjw
02-28-2010, 08:45 PM
i was in your spot last year-- DD or V drive-- my brother has a DD outback and i didn't like the motor in the middle at all. i too have a family that needs to do a bit of everything. i went the V drive route and actually went up to the LSV and it really paid off i think. Now there is a wake difference between the 2 boats but for me i need room, wanted it quite, and also like the higher sides of the lsv for safety sake. I ski fairly aggressivly and my kids wakeboard, ski and tube and the boat has worked out great. Can't imagine getting 8 in the DD outback?

dru1974
02-28-2010, 11:28 PM
Could have gotten a dd mobius

viking
03-01-2010, 11:43 PM
Doesn't matter which, just get a boat and take your family to the lake :)

This is all you really need to know! Doesn't matter what you get - you'll always long for something bigger, better, or more expensive. Eventually you'll upgrade to it. And then you'll long for something bigger, better, or more expensive. Eventually you'll upgrade again! And then you'll long for something bigger, better, or more expensive. And so it goes...............