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Buck02LS
03-31-2010, 06:16 AM
The Max amount / Safe amount of weight for surfing

My 02 Mobius will seat 10 people and or 1350lbs, now I heard of people putting 1500lbs + in their boats for surfing. And I’ve seen a few pictures of someone’s Outback on here looking like it’s damn near sinking in the back corner from have a ton of weight. And I know the newer boats can hold must more weight… but what is the most I can load up my 02 with and still be safe???

Thanks

iwakeboard
03-31-2010, 09:10 AM
I have 3300 lbs plumbed for boarding, (3) 1100lbs bags, and I also keep a 750lbs bag to throw on whatever side we're surfing on. I fill the bag in the belly to aboue half or a little over (~650lbs), fill the surf-side 1100lbs bag, and fill the 750lbs portable bag. So, that's 2500lbs for surfing there. I'm still trying to dial it in, so I may play with filling the bow bag completely and messing with the non-surf side bag. My boats rated for alot more than most (16 people / tons of weight, don't remember off the top of my head), so definitely try to follow your USCG plaque, but yes...there are people who load the bajesus out of their boats, but it's not necessarily "safe."

kaneboats
03-31-2010, 10:44 AM
I used to run 1200 in mine. 400 in the "trunk" with the bag pulled to the surf side. 400 in front of the rear seat-- again, with the bag pulled to the surf side. 400 in the walkway on the surf side. With the wife and 6 kids up front or sitting on the surf side it would throw a pretty decent surf wake. Never felt it was dangerous either.

Buck02LS
03-31-2010, 11:09 AM
Ok so I guess I shouldn’t have said a “safe” amount… who is safe these’s days anyways…lol

Ed G…
Yeah I really wasn’t looking for an exact amount but really wondering what you had in your boat! LOL Considering your outback is similar to my boat.

And how is the wave for you with that amount in your boat. Do you have any pic’s???

I have a 400 in the rear and a 300 in the ski locker… and I’m looking to get maybe a 500 or 750 on the side…

((I liked to have the rear rub rail of my Outback about two inches above the water surface, when boat is at idle.))<-- NICE!!! LOL

DOCDRS
03-31-2010, 11:50 AM
get your self a 750 or 1100 and fill it till your comfortable with the way your boat is sitting, that way if you have 2 small peeps in the boat you can fill it more and less if there is more buddy ballast........gives you lots of options and leeway for ballast........just ......02

DOCDRS
03-31-2010, 11:54 AM
in my outback ls i used to fill ballast and get as many peeps into the boat on the surf side as possible. at least 750lbs and try to get them all to sit in that back corner.....looked pretty funny.........always got the talk back....are you saying i'm fat cause you want me to come for a boat ride? :)

sandm
03-31-2010, 12:22 PM
we have a friend that runs 6'5" and is currently at 455. we joked around with him a while ago about what great ballast he would make on the boat.. he just had gastric bypass, so won't last long, but good to lose the weight :)


I agree with ed on the rubrail theory. takes 750 in the back corner, 400 in the center, 400 in the walkway and 400 on the seat on the surfside usually with 3-4 in the boat for us to get the best surfwake. have only done goofy once and it didn't take near as much on that side. not sure why, but didn't need the seat bag.

jmvotto
03-31-2010, 12:31 PM
on the OBV stand on surf side of the swim deck and the water should be between you shin and knee, probably Ed's method, 3" below the rub rail.

c.rix
03-31-2010, 12:33 PM
on the OBV stand on surf side of the swim deck and the water should be between you shin and knee, probably Ed's method, 3" below the rub rail.

haha I do rub rail you know its good but I dont recommend it if your on a busy lake

Sandm-on the goofy surf side you get that free driver ballast and in my boat thats good for 250 ;)

Buck02LS
03-31-2010, 01:08 PM
Thanks for all the info…

I think I’ll get a 750 to put on the surf side to go along with the 400 in the back and 300 up front…

And I think I’m going to get another 400 to put in the back for when I’m wakeboarding... <--any toughs on that… will that be too much weight for wakeboarding? 1100 plus a few people at the max…

mmandley
03-31-2010, 01:16 PM
You can load it as much as you want for wake boarding. You just will have to go a ittle faster to get the wave to clean up. Also only other thing to watch for is making sure the boat has enough hole shot to get the guy out of the water and make plane with out to much trouble.

We ran 1200 several times last year for wake boarding. My buddy is realy good and likes the weight. I just cringe when im out there looking at that huge wave lol

Buck02LS
03-31-2010, 01:16 PM
Water should be between you shin and knee,<-- that sounds good...!

And I won’t be filling it to the max when I’m all over the lake, but when it's me and a buddy or two just surfing, I want a nice wave!

Buck02LS
03-31-2010, 01:30 PM
Sounds good… I’ll be calling for a new prop for the extra weight I’ll be running 90% of the time… I’m sure I’ll have a most of the sacs full or a full boat 90% of the time… so one way or another I’m looking for a bigger wake. And with my boat, it’s more of a ski hull (if I’m correct) and I have to try a little harder to get a wakeboard wake or surf wake!

I really don’t need a massive wake for wakeboarding…(I’m no pro, but I try!!! LOL) but I’m really looking for is a nice surf wake! I just know with my boat it’s more of a cross over for skiing and wakeboarding, so I’m thinking I’m going to need some good weight!

Big Boss
03-31-2010, 02:19 PM
Here is a video of my 2007 OBV surf wave. I have a 750 in the LR and factory bag in the ski locker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKWsL4Zl_MI

It gets bigger with more peeps in the boat, but its plenty of wave to surf with just the two of us. We also move the cooler over to the surf side, and even our dogs LOL. Sometimes the look at us like we are crazy when we won't let them sit on the drivers side of the boat LOL