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cab13367
05-04-2010, 03:59 AM
So I started removing the stock ballast stuff in preparation for my upgrade. I got the stock pump off, then then the shut off valve, then the elbow so now I am at the thru hull. My thru hull intake is 1" diameter with a 3/4" diameter threaded insert. I am trying to remove the 3/4" insert without removing the whole intake as I am going to use the existing 1" intake. I tried locking vise grips on the threads of the 3/4" insert (yes, damaged the threads a bit but doesn't matter) with a short cheater bar on the vise grips but it will not budge.

Any ideas how to get it off? Below is a pic.

Thanks,

Al

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg276/cab13367/IMG_6487.jpg

tazz3069
05-04-2010, 09:45 AM
I thought that it was one piece. That is why I removed it and changed it out with a real 1" fitting.

moombadaze
05-04-2010, 09:48 AM
Al, its one piece, your going to have to remove the whole thing.

brain_rinse
05-04-2010, 10:13 AM
Yep, it looks like an insert but it's not. It's one solid piece of cast bronze.

cab13367
05-04-2010, 10:23 AM
Well, no wonder it wouldn't budge! Wonder why it's made that way instead of just one continuous 3/4" piece?

Thanks for setting me straight!

Al

JesseC
05-04-2010, 02:07 PM
Well, look on the bright side, the hole is already large enough for the new 1" thru hull!! No drilling. I figure they did this so that you only had to drill one size hole in any boat whether it required a 1" or a 3/4" probably a shortcut for the boat manufacturers.

cab13367
05-05-2010, 12:27 AM
Need your help again guys. I've removed the big nut around the 1" threaded pipe and have removed the 4 screws (actually, mine only had three) on the scupper from underneath the boat but for the life of me, I cannot get the fitting to break loose from the hull. I've tried beating on it from the top, first with a rubber mallet, then with a small sledge with a piece of wood on top of the fitting to finally, hitting the top of the fitting directly with the sledge to try and break it loose. The thing just won't budge. So what's the trick to gettting this thing off?? I'm afraid of hitting it much harder for fear of breaking something.

Thanks,

Al

stretch55
05-05-2010, 01:12 AM
Need your help again guys. I've removed the big nut around the 1" threaded pipe and have removed the 4 screws (actually, mine only had three) on the scupper from underneath the boat but for the life of me, I cannot get the fitting to break loose from the hull. I've tried beating on it from the top, first with a rubber mallet, then with a small sledge with a piece of wood on top of the fitting to finally, hitting the top of the fitting directly with the sledge to try and break it loose. The thing just won't budge. So what's the trick to gettting this thing off?? I'm afraid of hitting it much harder for fear of breaking something.

Thanks,

Al

The Marine sealant just has it "stuck" in there. I beat mine like you did and it poped out. Try to cut around it, in between the through hull and the actual hole in the boat to try and break up that sealant. Or poke a flat head screw driver in that area to break up the sealant. It will pop out. It's just being stuborn! LOL

cab13367
05-05-2010, 01:29 AM
Well, I got it out. I cut the sealant around the hole but what did it for me was that I stuck a socket extension inside the pipe and pushed it forward. Hard. That broke the sealant loose on one end and then it was easy after that. However, a small piece of the gelcoat stuck to the scupper and broke off and now I can see the fiberglass strands from under the boat. I guess I will cover that with sealant. Also, remember that I wrote that the scupper only had three screws? Well, that's because whoever installed the scupper broke the head off the 4th screw and just covered it up with sealant. Nice.

So how do I get all the old sealant off? Is there something I can use on it like goof off that will soften it without damaging the gelcoat?

Thanks,

Al

tazz3069
05-05-2010, 09:23 AM
Good Job Al. I can not remember what I used to take off the old sealant. Are you just replacing that one scupper? or are you adding more Scuppers or Thru Hull Fittings? If your adding, did you go to Home Depot and purchase the 1" carbide hole saw. That is the only tool you will need to cut into the fiberglass. If you are adding Scuppers, make sure to drill pilot holes for the screws. I think that is why the head broke off on your scupper.

cab13367
05-05-2010, 09:40 AM
Mark,

I am going with just one 1" thru hull so no need to drill any holes. I'm sure they drilled a pilot hole for the screws but probably didn't go deep enough on the one that broke off.

kaneboats
05-05-2010, 09:59 AM
You guys just convinced me to leave that one alone. If I do anything I'll just add a second thru hull on the other side. No way I'm taking the original one out.

DOCDRS
05-05-2010, 10:22 AM
what if you had of heated the bronze fitting up? that should soften the sealant so it comes out easier

JesseC
05-05-2010, 03:24 PM
When I removed mine, I just layed under the boat with a brand new razor blade and very carefully cut all of the sealant off. Just use the same method as scraping paint off of glass. If you are careful you will not even leave a scratch.

cab13367
05-05-2010, 03:40 PM
what if you had of heated the bronze fitting up? that should soften the sealant so it comes out easier

Not sure if that would have helped but might be worth a try.


When I removed mine, I just layed under the boat with a brand new razor blade and very carefully cut all of the sealant off. Just use the same method as scraping paint off of glass. If you are careful you will not even leave a scratch.

I did that too but you can't get very far in with a razor blade and the whole intake grate has sealant on it.

Oh well, it's off now!

JesseC
05-05-2010, 03:59 PM
I meant use the razor blade on the gel coat. If you are very careful and don't apply much pressure the sealant will scrape right off. I was worried about using a solvent on the gel coat. Just angle the razor blade like you would when scraping paint off of glass and slide it very slowy. I did not even have a knick in my gel coat when I was done.

cab13367
05-05-2010, 11:04 PM
Oh, got it. I will give that a try. Thanks.