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cab13367
05-25-2010, 01:07 PM
I am at an irrigation supply place to buy an Irritrol 700 3/4" valve and it only comes with a 24V solenoid. Do I replace this with the solenoid from the stock Orbit valve?

Also, what does the On/Off lever on the valve do? Is it just like the little black lever on the Orbits and manually opens the valve?
Thx.

Al

jester
05-25-2010, 02:00 PM
Al,

The on/off should just turn it on if you do not have the solenoid powered. I do not know if the 12V solenoid from the Orbit will fit or not. I would think it would but do not know.

moombadaze
05-25-2010, 02:05 PM
the stock solenoids are 24volt, so they should work

cab13367
05-25-2010, 02:41 PM
Al,

The on/off should just turn it on if you do not have the solenoid powered. I do not know if the 12V solenoid from the Orbit will fit or not. I would think it would but do not know.

jester,

The valve is normally closed and opens when energized. I think the lever keeps it open all the time like the little lever on the stock Orbits.


the stock solenoids are 24volt, so they should work

Really? I'll check it out when I get home. So the 24V solenoids works with 12V as well as 24V?

The irrigation place called Irritrol while I was there and they gave him a # of a third party who sells 12V solenoids for the Irritrols.

I think I'll call Irritrol and ask if there are any operating issues with running 12V to their 24V solenoids.

Al

kaneboats
05-25-2010, 03:46 PM
Daze is absolutely right. I've seen the replacements for the stock ones at HD and they say 24v on them.

csm
05-25-2010, 09:02 PM
I installed one of these last week, and have only used it once... but the only way I could get it to work was to have the lever set to "on". When it was off, I couldn't get it to fill. I was afraid leaving it on would leave it open all of the time, but it seems like this valve works differently than the Orbit. I ran at planing speed for quite a while, and the bag never filled when the ballast switch wasn't set to fill.

It was a big upgrade over the Orbit valves that I had, especially on my 750#bag.

Oh, and I just used the same solenoid that I was using with the Orbits.

you da man
05-25-2010, 09:41 PM
The 24v Irritrols are what I have in my boat as well. I filled the 565lb sac in 8min 15 sec when I saw water come out the overflow. Cheap upgrade from the Orbit valves and took a whole 20 min.

cab13367
05-25-2010, 09:43 PM
Okay, so I contacted the third party that Irritrol suggested who sells 12V solenoids for their valves. That guy told me that the 24VAC solenoid that come with the Irritrol operates exactly the same way on 12VDC so it's fine to use on 12VDC systems like our boats have. Whatever, I'm no electrical engineer, but sounds good to me :)



I installed one of these last week, and have only used it once... but the only way I could get it to work was to have the lever set to "on". When it was off, I couldn't get it to fill. I was afraid leaving it on would leave it open all of the time, but it seems like this valve works differently than the Orbit. I ran at planing speed for quite a while, and the bag never filled when the ballast switch wasn't set to fill.

It was a big upgrade over the Orbit valves that I had, especially on my 750#bag.

Oh, and I just used the same solenoid that I was using with the Orbits.

csm,

Glad to hear the Irritrol is a big upgrade over the Orbits. I am going to go that route instead of the vented loop for the front bag.

Thanks,

Al

cab13367
05-25-2010, 10:01 PM
The 24v Irritrols are what I have in my boat as well. I filled the 565lb sac in 8min 15 sec when I saw water come out the overflow. Cheap upgrade from the Orbit valves and took a whole 20 min.

Is that with just one bag filling? What's ur ballast system set up?

you da man
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Is that with just one bag filling? What's ur ballast system set up?

Just filling one bag. It's the factory GGIII system (2008) with just the one Rule pump. I never have to fill more than one bag at a time.

cab13367
05-25-2010, 11:36 PM
Just filling one bag. It's the factory GGIII system (2008) with just the one Rule pump. I never have to fill more than one bag at a time.

Why not? Don't u fill all 3 sacs when u wakeboard and the front and one rear when u surf?

FYI, my stock Rule off a 1" intake and 1" fill line with a brass swing check valve fills my 750 in 6:00, from completely empty until water is forced out the drain hole. Used to take 13:06 with the stock system. This is filling just one bag. So there's lots of room for improvement there still.

you da man
05-26-2010, 12:04 AM
Why not? Don't u fill all 3 sacs when u wakeboard and the front and one rear when u surf?

FYI, my stock Rule off a 1" intake and 1" fill line with a brass swing check valve fills my 750 in 6:00, from completely empty until water is forced out the drain hole. Used to take 13:06 with the stock system. This is filling just one bag. So there's lots of room for improvement there still.

When I pull my boat off the trailer I'm already filling the center. Then if I wakeboard I don't need to fill up both sides full so by the time we decide who is going first or getting vests out, board down, it's filled about half. Surfing is easy, the center is full or full enough that we drain one bag and fill the other. Over the next winter I'm going with 3 Johnson pumps with 1" intakes and hoses. The guys on the Centurion forum are filling 1100lb sacs in 8 min with this set up.

cab13367
05-26-2010, 01:06 AM
Over the next winter I'm going with 3 Johnson pumps with 1" intakes and hoses. The guys on the Centurion forum are filling 1100lb sacs in 8 min with this set up.

That makes me feel pretty good about my "budget" upgrade then. I'm running two T800's (3/4" fill hoses) and the stock Rule (1" fill hose) off a single 1" intake and it takes just under 9 minutes (8:58) to fill three sacs totaling 1310 lbs.

you da man
05-26-2010, 08:07 AM
That makes me feel pretty good about my "budget" upgrade then. I'm running two T800's (3/4" fill hoses) and the stock Rule (1" fill hose) off a single 1" intake and it takes just under 9 minutes (8:58) to fill three sacs totaling 1310 lbs.

With the 3 Johnson pumps they are filling 3300lbs in 8 min.

cab13367
05-26-2010, 10:00 AM
With the 3 Johnson pumps they are filling 3300lbs in 8 min.

Oh, well then never mind :). That's the obvious advantage of separate intakes - ur fill time is not dependent on how many bags u are filling at a time.

Aquaholic
05-28-2010, 09:37 AM
Thanks. I wanted to see your set up before I start my project.

Aqua

cab13367
06-03-2010, 02:46 PM
Thanks. I wanted to see your set up before I start my project.

Aqua

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