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stretch55
08-08-2010, 03:37 PM
Yesterday I had all 2700 lbs of ballast full with 8 prople on the boat and we tried wakeboarding and it Sucked!! I had to move everybody to the front of the boat to even get up to speed or else I couldn't get above 14 mph. So after moving everybody up front and getting up to speed the wake was horrible. We are going to try no ballast and maybe try 1/2 or 1/4 ballast. I wonder if I need to get a wakeboard prop for more holeshot?

ottawarider
08-08-2010, 05:11 PM
just need to go faster to clean up the wake. The most I run (outback v) is 2700 with 4 people and it plans fine. Have to ride at like 24.5 to clean up the wake... As for the prop ya might need a different one I am sure people have experience with it here. Is all your 2700 hidden?

you da man
08-08-2010, 05:46 PM
Yesterday I had all 2700 lbs of ballast full with 8 prople on the boat and we tried wakeboarding and it Sucked!! I had to move everybody to the front of the boat to even get up to speed or else I couldn't get above 14 mph. So after moving everybody up front and getting up to speed the wake was horrible. We are going to try no ballast and maybe try 1/2 or 1/4 ballast. I wonder if I need to get a wakeboard prop for more holeshot?

Unless you have mad skills, you don't need full ballast and 8 people. Hell, pros don't even do that much weight and they are in the 25mph-ish range.

kennedy
08-08-2010, 08:19 PM
I guess you like to buy GAS!!!!

:confused:

saskie99
08-09-2010, 11:57 AM
yesterday we had two 750s full 400 ski locker, 10 adults 5 kids and wake plated all the way up. It was huge, we had to ride at 23.5 instead of 21 to clean it up but the wake was enormous. The double ups were down right scary. I have never hit a dbl up that was as big as it. I don't think you can ever have to much weight in the boat. It just has to be distributed evenly and the rider has to have the sac to charge it! If you don't charge it you end up on your casing the wake over and over again. Wake to wake toe side was a bit of a challenge.
How was the wake terrible?

sandm
08-09-2010, 02:25 PM
your boat, but 15 people sounds like way too many for any boat under 25ft in length.

saskie99
08-09-2010, 04:26 PM
ten adults and 5 kids under the age of 4 so yes they all fit. It was super tight but we all squished in and had to be super careful not to dip the nose but no bull shit 10 adults and 5 kids, I may even have a picture.

oh just had an revelation, i counted the 10 people on the way out to ride, so 9 is more accurate as minus the rider so for my mistake.

bjames
08-09-2010, 07:57 PM
My LSV maximum load capacity is 1850lbs. How are you guys getting over 2000lbs of ballanst with 8 people to boot. I loaded up both my 750 sacs and the fron 400 sac with only 3 people in the boat, and I was a little concerned that I was going to damage or swamp my boat.:confused:

brain_rinse
08-09-2010, 08:06 PM
My LSV maximum load capacity is 1850lbs. How are you guys getting over 2000lbs of ballanst with 8 people to boot. I loaded up both my 750 sacs and the fron 400 sac with only 3 people in the boat, and I was a little concerned that I was going to damage or swamp my boat.:confused:
I'd compare it to the speed limit being 55 and people driving much faster. How much faster depends on the person and their risk tolerance.

saskie99
08-09-2010, 08:10 PM
Fearlessness and good insurance! ha ha ha. As long as you distribute the weight out fairly evenly, and the boat driver knows what he or she is doing. We chili dipped the bow once but not to bad. For surfing we had the same people and emptied one 750 and had the snaps for the cover in touching the water on the driver side. We had people on the sun deck and edge of the boat.

It just depends on much weight you want to try.

brain_rinse
08-09-2010, 08:11 PM
You'll definitely need to get a new prop if you want to consistently run that much weight. It's hard on the transmission to run that heavy otherwise. Then speed up and add rope.

Or just skip the ballast when you have a full boat.

stretch55
08-09-2010, 11:02 PM
Well, I think I. Need a wakeboard prop. I don't think youn guys read this right. I could not get above 14mph at all. Until I moved eveyone in the boat to the front and even then it took forever!

you da man
08-09-2010, 11:59 PM
Well, I think I. Need a wakeboard prop. I don't think youn guys read this right. I could not get above 14mph at all. Until I moved eveyone in the boat to the front and even then it took forever!

Screw the wakeboard prop...go with the Acme 1235 from Nettles Props in Austin, TX. It's a better prop in every way...holeshot, less vibration, better steering, and cleaner wake.

sandm
08-10-2010, 07:25 AM
second that statement..
it's a fantastic prop. best money spent..

stretch55
08-10-2010, 06:19 PM
Screw the wakeboard prop...go with the Acme 1235 from Nettles Props in Austin, TX. It's a better prop in every way...holeshot, less vibration, better steering, and cleaner wake.

Is that the prop that you run? I read some good reviews about it on wake world.

you da man
08-10-2010, 10:56 PM
Is that the prop that you run? I read some good reviews about it on wake world.

Just got it and I had the wakeboard prop (now my spare). Now I didn't mind the wakeboard prop as it did fine even with 3,000lbs of water ballast and 5 people in the boat during out surf session. However, I'm not going to say it could get on plane with that weight because I would never need to get on plane with that kind of weight.

501
08-11-2010, 01:16 AM
I have 2650 lbs, and we regularily run it full with 6-10 people in the boat and it planes just fine. It steers sluggish, but thats to be expected with that much weight. We ride about 23-24 with that much weight but the wake is size large. I have the wakeboard pro 14.24x14 and I have the Cat340 engine.

stretch55
08-11-2010, 02:53 PM
So If I get the Acme 1235 prop can I run at wakeboard speed (22-24) with my 2650lbs-2700lbs of ballast with 6 or so people and plane out fairly quickly? I thought I read on wakeworld somewhere that someone was running about the exact same weight as me but he had the 1235 and he plained out around 11 mph?

T100
09-02-2010, 12:40 AM
Can I run an Acme 1235 on my 2004 Mobius LSV? and how is it with all other water sports behind the boat?

Paully
09-02-2010, 01:38 AM
ditto to T100 question...

jasonwm
09-02-2010, 04:16 PM
Can I run an Acme 1235 on my 2004 Mobius LSV? and how is it with all other water sports behind the boat?

Yep, you sure can, although if you use the boat for other activities you may not have enough top end. Check our our Moomba prop application guide here: http://www.wakeprops.com/wakeboard-boat-propeller-finder/moomba-wakeboard-boat-propellers.

That will give you some ideas, and if you want a personalized recommendation just get in touch with us.

stretch55
09-03-2010, 02:07 AM
Yep, you sure can, although if you use the boat for other activities you may not have enough top end. Check our our Moomba prop application guide here: http://www.wakeprops.com/wakeboard-boat-propeller-finder/moomba-wakeboard-boat-propellers.

That will give you some ideas, and if you want a personalized recommendation just get in touch with us.

So how come that chart doesn't show the acme 1235 on it? I asked acme which prop I should use on my 2005 XLV. A 1235 or a 1433 and Bill from acme told me to use the 1433. I am not really sure why he told me to use the smaller of the two. I haven't had a chance to email him back and ask him why he suggested the 1433 over the 1235. Anybody got any ideas?

deafgoose
09-03-2010, 02:26 AM
So how come that chart doesn't show the acme 1235 on it? I asked acme which prop I should use on my 2005 XLV. A 1235 or a 1433 and Bill from acme told me to use the 1433. I am not really sure why he told me to use the smaller of the two. I haven't had a chance to email him back and ask him why he suggested the 1433 over the 1235. Anybody got any ideas?

My guess would be clearance issues with the trailer.

The Acme 1235 is slightly bigger than the 1433.

I would get the Acme 1235 and purchase a shim kit for the trailer bunks!

jasonwm
09-03-2010, 01:19 PM
My guess would be clearance issues with the trailer.

The Acme 1235 is slightly bigger than the 1433.

I would get the Acme 1235 and purchase a shim kit for the trailer bunks!

Yes, it is a clearance related issue, some Moomba/trailer combos have enough room for the 1235 no problem, others don't. But in actual use there will be absolutely no difference performance wise between the 1235 and 1433. Given that we've found that it's just easier to recommend the 1433 for every application so that customer's don't have to mess with checking clearance correctly, installing spacers on their trailer bunks, or in the worst case scenario repairing a brand new prop because it made contact with the trailer.

As far as Bill's recommendation, I don't want to speak for him, but the 1235 is a much more common prop, and one that any decent dealer is going to stock, so it's probably much easier to find than the relatively rare 1433. Fortunately we stock both of them, so it's not a problem. :)

jasonwm
09-03-2010, 01:51 PM
So If I get the Acme 1235 prop can I run at wakeboard speed (22-24) with my 2650lbs-2700lbs of ballast with 6 or so people and plane out fairly quickly? I thought I read on wakeworld somewhere that someone was running about the exact same weight as me but he had the 1235 and he plained out around 11 mph?
Ultimately it depends where in the boat you have that weight positioned. Moomba's really like weight forward, so you want to get as close to 50-50 as possible, which will also help the boat plane out faster at wakeboarding speeds.

That said, the 1235 (or 1433) is definitely the prop you want if slow speed performance is your only priority.


Can I run an Acme 1235 on my 2004 Mobius LSV? and how is it with all other water sports behind the boat?

Yes, the 1235 will clear the Boatmate trailer on your boat, if you want a little more breathing room though the 1433 would be the prop I would recommend. From a performance standpoint it's going to be exactly the same as the 1235, so there's no sacrifice there.

Both props will reduce your top speed significantly, there's no way to improve the acceleration and low speed performance that much without compromising somewhere. But you should still be able to get 37-38MPH out of the boat depending on your elevation, so it will be fine for skiing, tubing or cruising.

If you're worried about losing that much top end check out our Plus 2 upgrade, it will give you most of the benefits of the 1235 or 1433 at slower speeds, without as much loss on the top end.