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cab13367
06-07-2011, 12:42 AM
Last spring, I tested three props - the stock OJ prop, the OJ wakeboard prop, and the Acme 537 which falls in between the stock and the wakeboard prop. Below is a link to that post and the dialogue that ensued.

http://moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=10810&highlight=prop+test+results

After that test, I went with the Acme 537 and used that prop all summer. It met all my performance requirements until one day late in the summer. That day, I had all my ballast full (1300#'s), had 6-7 adults on board, and was trying to pull up a wakeboarder. We got him up, but it took a while. That was when I found the limits of the 537 and since that day, I've been thinking about a new prop.

I didn't want the OJ wakeboard prop because in my tests, it lost 4 mph on the top end and because it growls at low speeds as many people have commented. It also turns more rpms at all speeds resulting in poor fuel efficiency all the time. The 1235 is out because it's overkill and there is supposedly a trailer clearance issue witht he LSV. The 1433 is the next choice but I would have the same issue with this prop as with the OJ wakeboard prop - too many rpms and higher fuel consumption all the time. Which brings me to the little known 1847, which is the same diameter (14") and pitch (14.25") as the 1433 but has more cup (0.150" vs 0.105"). According to Jim at Acme, the additional cup has the effect of almost an inch of additional pitch on the top end with negligible loss of holeshot on the bottom end. And it turns fewer rpms than the 1433 at the same speed. Sounds good to me and wakemakers (who also sells props but the way) is just down the road from me and they happend to have one in stock, and Spencer said I could try it out and if didn't like it, could bring it back for a full refund. So I picked it up Friday and tested it today.

Below is the updated prop results form with the 1847's performance data added. The testing conditions were almost identical as last spring so the comparisons are valid. Only difference is that last year, my 14 year old son was with me (he weighed about 100 lbs) whereas this year, it was just me in the boat. The numbers speak for themselves. I didn't bother testing it with ballast as I know it will have more pull than I will ever need. Needless to say, I am keeping this prop and will be posting my Acme 537 and my stock OJ in the classifieds soon.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg276/cab13367/Boat%20pics%20-%20public/PropTestForm2.jpg

cab13367
06-07-2011, 12:56 AM
Here is a shot of the gauges during my top speed run. This shot highlights the importance of using a gps when quoting top speed. I calibrated both the analog speedometer and the perfect pass digital speedometer to the gps at 23 mph, yet at 39 mph (as indicated by the gps), the analog speedo reads almost 41 and the perfect pass display reads 38. The second pic shows a crop of the gps where you can see 39 mph in the upper right corner of the display.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg276/cab13367/Boat%20pics%20-%20public/aa48532e.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg276/cab13367/Boat%20pics%20-%20public/39mph.jpg

cab13367
06-07-2011, 12:58 AM
The two Acme props. The 1847 is on the left and the 537 is on the right.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg276/cab13367/Boat%20pics%20-%20public/71b43aaa.jpg

04OUTBACK
06-07-2011, 07:35 AM
Interesting. I am about to the point of being tired of vibrations in my oj 14.25x14.
Was leaning toward 1235 but like these numbers....

rdlangston13
06-07-2011, 10:56 AM
I was really looking at that 1847 but no one had done a test on it until now! Thank you for doing this as this confirms my choice for my next prop. The OJ growl is VERY annoying and to me it makes my boat feel very very cheap.

kaneboats
06-07-2011, 11:13 AM
Looks like a perfect choice. Your numbers sold me on the idea of the 537 (I know, I know, I actually got the 1161, which is the .135 cup instead of .105 cup in the same size prop - 13.5 X 16 ). It has been perfect. Now I know what I will need to go to when my 11 year old boys start demanding more ballast in a few years.

bergermaister
06-07-2011, 02:39 PM
And here I was all convinced that the 537 would be my next prop...

I'm liking that 0-23mph in over a second faster though!

Grant M
06-07-2011, 03:08 PM
Now we just need a group buy deal!!! :D

04OUTBACK
06-20-2011, 10:01 AM
Didn't tow any riders, but I was very pleased with the results of putting the prop on!

jmvotto
06-20-2011, 10:11 AM
Didn't tow any riders, but I was very pleased with the results of putting the prop on!

Found the ole fashion prop puller...

04OUTBACK
06-20-2011, 02:23 PM
yep, $9 5" C Clamp From Bloomfield Hardware..

rdlangston13
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Didn't tow any riders, but I was very pleased with the results of putting the prop on!

Did it eliminate the vibrations from the on wake board prop? Mine makes alot of noise and I'm not sure if it is the normal amount of noise of it something else is wrong haha

04OUTBACK
06-21-2011, 01:34 PM
I was very pleased at the difference! Smoother, quieter...
Lake was rough so I didn't try top end but ran up over 4000 rpm.

TL7
06-21-2011, 02:50 PM
David - if you switch to an Acme prop you will eliminate the growl on takeoff. I've made the switch on two boats now (Outback and now LSV) and the growl went away once I ditched the OJ's.

yearround
06-21-2011, 06:36 PM
Hey Al,
thanks for the info on the prop. we got too close to the trailer loading in a storm last year and the prop is not repairable. i had 2 OJ props, but i think i will go this way, so far sound like the best fit for my preference. guess ill start looking for where to buy one.

rdlangston13
06-21-2011, 09:25 PM
David - if you switch to an Acme prop you will eliminate the growl on takeoff. I've made the switch on two boats now (Outback and now LSV) and the growl went away once I ditched the OJ's.

yeah but the thing is i am not sure if my growl is the normal growl or if it is more severe. you mention a take off growl...my growls all the time. you get up around 20-30 mph it gets harder to hear due to wind and water noise but i still hear it. i guess i just need someone who had the growl and swapped props to fix it to ride in my boat so i can verify its the same growl lol. i just feel mine is more severe then what is described on here

OBV06
06-22-2011, 06:39 PM
After using my 2006 OBV with the stock prop since the day we pulled it off the lot, I decided to finally change the prop to something more suited to where we live...

We boat at ~6500ft and I knew that the boat wasn't propped right (even though the dealer told us back then "...it'll be fine..."). I never felt it was a big deal, because for one I had nothing to really compare it to and the boat simply 'felt fine'. Skiing at ~36 was good and compared to other boats it pulled me out reasonably fast.

After reading all the great info in this thread and forum, I called Jim @ ACME and his recommendation, based on the info I could give him, was the 1847. He was great to talk to and I am amazed at how he simply nailed it, with his recommendation!!

My brother-in-law dinged up his (stock - Mobius XLV) prop the weekend before and I told him to send it to Nettle Props to see if they can repair it, to use it as a spare.
He checked with JT about the 1847 and JT said it was a great choice, so we went ahead and ordered 2 of them...

Got them installed, last night. We were a bit pressed for time, but took the OBV out for a quick test-drive and we were sitting there amazed at how butter-smooth this boat is now. It doesn't need any time to pop out of the hole and planes out incredibly fast. In fact it felt like it planed the moment I hit the throttle; definitely not the case before.
The entire throttle range feels great and the we can now hit the target 5000 RPM, which before was not possible.

The other good news is that I gained about 2-3 MPH, the lake was kind of lumpy so we will have to see what happens when we find some glass, might be even more, then...
Can't wait to try it out further and see if it changed the skiing wake at all...

The moral of the story: If you boat at altitude and you are running the stock prop, you are probably missing out a bit. Don't ignore it, like I did, for too long!

Kudos to Jim @ ACME Propellers & JT at nettleprops.com!!!

yearround
06-22-2011, 10:15 PM
Hey obv06 where are you from? There are not a lot of Places to boat at 6500. I get to some higher places but mostly I'm closer to 5600. Which stock prop did you have? A Wakeboard prop or 3 blade?

KCMobius
07-23-2011, 10:03 AM
Went out last night to try my new Acme 1847 prop and WOW! I love it. It is everything that I was told. Now my old prop (a stock 4 blade OJ 14 x 18) was a little on the rough side. But this new ACME took out all the vibration I was getting under heavy load and it is sooo much faster getting to wakeboarding speed. Smooth is the best word!

I was running with 2 rear 400 lbs ballast and one say 600 in the front with 4 people in the boat.

Just can't say enough about it. Best mod I have done. Also send out the good service star to JT at Nettle Props. Great Price Quick delivery.

Thanks to CAB13367 for the help with this test, It was great to have for helping with which prop to buy for me.

loudsubz
08-16-2011, 08:57 PM
What are some real world differences between the 1433 and 1847 in terms of gas usage?

cab13367
08-18-2011, 05:37 PM
What are some real world differences between the 1433 and 1847 in terms of gas usage?

You'll burn 0.61 gal/hr more with the 1433.


Actually, I just made that up. I have no idea :)

lsvboombox
08-18-2011, 05:52 PM
You'll burn 0.61 gal/hr more with the 1433.


Actually, I just made that up. I have no idea :)


lol............

Grant M
08-18-2011, 10:43 PM
You'll burn 0.61 gal/hr more with the 1433.


Actually, I just made that up. I have no idea :)

Thanks Al, up here in Canucklehead land that would be 0.507947 Imp Gal/hr which of course is theoretical because I too have no idea....
My gas usage is basically the same from the stock to the 1847 but no way in he ll I'm going back to stock! :o)

08LSV
08-28-2011, 03:17 AM
Hey Cab thanks for doing the comparison, I would have put that mod off till last cause I just don't know anything about props. Looking at your test results I made my decision in 5mins and was able to get in on the group buy. I just got my new 1847 installed today and hope to try it out tomorrow!

cab13367
08-28-2011, 11:54 AM
Hey Cab thanks for doing the comparison, I would have put that mod off till last cause I just don't know anything about props. Looking at your test results I made my decision in 5mins and was able to get in on the group buy. I just got my new 1847 installed today and hope to try it out tomorrow!

No problem. Let us know your thoughts after you get a chance to put it thru it's paces.

08LSV
08-29-2011, 02:07 AM
No problem. Let us know your thoughts after you get a chance to put it thru it's paces.

Hey just took it out today with the new 1847! It was freaking awesome!!! THE GROWL IS GONE!!! I am not sure where the "Ogre" went that was living under my boat but he is gone now. Fully weighted with 2300lbs of ballast and four people in the boat it pulled the rider up super easy and planned out faster with so much less throttle. It got super choppy with the 100 wallys doing power turns and pulling tubers on our small lake and I never felt it "chug" or surge much like the prop was free spinning against the weight and chop. Dare I say that I even got better gas mileage... I filled up before we went out, got on the water at 10:30am, everybody surfed a lot (except me, my back is still jacked up.) and when we left at 5:30pm we still had almost 3/4 of a tank. My gauge is pretty accurate until 1/4 tank. We did hang out in the cove for about two hours total, but the rest of the time was surfing. RPM's were good 2600 @ 10.3. I did,t get to test top speed as the place was hella crowded. I'll have to tell you about all the wallys at the launch later... I am sure you can imagine. The prop is probably one of the best upgrades I have done for sure and couldn't have done it this well without your help. Thanks again. Just wish I would have done it a few years ago. I had no idea what I was missing.

squeeg333
08-31-2011, 07:49 PM
This is great news man! I get more and more excited to try out my new 1847 on my 08LSV. I need a few more weeks before I can get the boat in the water again, but this makes the purchase even better hearing this!! I can't wait!!!

bergermaister
08-31-2011, 07:54 PM
Yer killing me! I'm stuck thinking about an 1847 now until next spring! Maybe Santa will drop something special under the tree for me this year. Hmmmmmm.

08LSV
08-31-2011, 09:04 PM
Yer killing me! I'm stuck thinking about an 1847 now until next spring! Maybe Santa will drop something special under the tree for me this year. Hmmmmmm.

Don't worry you won't know what your missing until you try the new one...... Haha! I thought my boat was just fine till I changed it out. I do know the feeling about putting off a mod I really want. It's like I can't get it outta my head.

cab13367
08-31-2011, 09:32 PM
The prop is probably one of the best upgrades I have done for sure and couldn't have done it this well without your help. Thanks again. Just wish I would have done it a few years ago. I had no idea what I was missing.

No problem, glad it helped. I am in the engineering field so I prefer to see hard data instead of seat of the pants impressions.

rdlangston13
09-07-2011, 10:27 PM
Matt75 got the new OJ 5 blade and was nice enough to let me try out his acme 537 that came on his axis. My boat came with OJ wakeboard prop, 14.25x14, and his did not pull nearly as good as mine which is to be expected but it was butter smooth. My "ogre" was gone too! I have the stock OJ back on now but an 1847 will be purchased by next spring!

08LSV
09-08-2011, 04:17 AM
My "ogre" was gone too! I have the stock OJ back on now but an 1847 will be purchased by next spring!

You really won't be sorry with the 1847. It is really the best mod I have done to date and now I could never go back. If I ever buy a new boat it won't leave the lot without a prop upgrade with the 1847 or comparable.

hans
05-25-2012, 10:27 PM
My new 1847 with a prop puller should be delivered tomorrow so my question is: do I have to torque the prop or just tighten it tight?

kaneboats
05-26-2012, 09:59 AM
Take a sharpie and trace a line on the shaft at the front edge of the prop. When you put the new one on you can tighten it until it reaches the line. Should be in the right spot.

KSmith
05-26-2012, 10:58 AM
My new 1847 with a prop puller should be delivered tomorrow so my question is: do I have to torque the prop or just tighten it tight?

Torque to 35 ftlbs

hans
05-26-2012, 12:21 PM
Thanks for the answer, I will try to find the tool to torque it.....I didn t get the prop today.....monday I hope

bergermaister
05-26-2012, 05:53 PM
Here's what my 1847 came with:

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k414/grberglund/MoombaMobiusV/cc7d5b0e.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k414/grberglund/MoombaMobiusV/dc7f9fb6.jpg

hans
05-28-2012, 07:22 PM
I received my new acme 1847. I notice that on one side ( the side you can see in the rear of the boat) there are perfect grooves in the metal, and on the other side it is like all the grooves has been sanded.....is it normal...are the two sides should be the same?

rdlangston13
05-28-2012, 09:06 PM
I received my new acme 1847. I notice that on one side ( the side you can see in the rear of the boat) there are perfect grooves in the metal, and on the other side it is like all the grooves has been sanded.....is it normal...are the two sides should be the same?

they sand a little of the back side off here and there for balancing purposes

hans
05-28-2012, 09:24 PM
thanks for the answer.........so now I have to install it:)

jfox8807
11-12-2012, 09:27 AM
so i have a question? a lot of yall have the acme 1847 but which is better 1847 or the 1617. im wanting to reprop my boat this winter (2011 xlv with 325hp) since i am planing to upgrade balast as well (900 sumo's in back , 1150lb fly high in ski locker and IBS bag upfront maybe) but i cant decide which prop to go with so any help or input would be appreciated.

mmandley
11-12-2012, 12:45 PM
so i have a question? a lot of yall have the acme 1847 but which is better 1847 or the 1617. im wanting to reprop my boat this winter (2011 xlv with 325hp) since i am planing to upgrade balast as well (900 sumo's in back , 1150lb fly high in ski locker and IBS bag upfront maybe) but i cant decide which prop to go with so any help or input would be appreciated.

Not to many people can honestly comment on the 1617 because most dont run it. They go with the norm or popular prop

I for one had a wake board prop already and wanted something better.

The 1617 is that prop.

Its got more pull then the 1617 and top speed is basically the same, its just not the popular guy in the list.

If your thinking of a 1847 then i would just get the 1617 and be done thinking. This way you can literally run as much weight as you want. I had no problem plaining out with 3K ballast and a boat full of people.

On my wake board prop it had a hard time doing that.

jmvotto
11-12-2012, 02:30 PM
so i have a question? a lot of yall have the acme 1847 but which is better 1847 or the 1617. im wanting to reprop my boat this winter (2011 xlv with 325hp) since i am planing to upgrade balast as well (900 sumo's in back , 1150lb fly high in ski locker and IBS bag upfront maybe) but i cant decide which prop to go with so any help or input would be appreciated.

I put the 1235 on my 2012 xlv and it is a beast, I beleive and Mike will correct me if i am off base ( i have no experience with the 1617), but i thought the 1235 is the best pulling prop for weight in the acme line for Moombas...

mmandley
11-12-2012, 06:33 PM
I put the 1235 on my 2012 xlv and it is a beast, I beleive and Mike will correct me if i am off base ( i have no experience with the 1617), but i thought the 1235 is the best pulling prop for weight in the acme line for Moombas...

as fare as i know yes on the 1235.

You have to consider a post Engine Nut made about how to prop your boat. It comes down to when you have it weighted, and up on plane can you get to your max RPM and still be accellerating. This shows the boat it proped correctly for the engine and load. If you cant reach max RPM then your over weighted, or under proped and working your engine much harder and this can cause engine failure.

I know im running more weight then my boat can handle and because my prop wouldnt allow the boat to goto its full RPM then i knew i needed a bigger prop. Thus came the 1617 from Wake Makers.

I pretty sure Dusty is running the 1617 since the Texas Jam and can attest to its effectivness.

I will say if i had the 1235 to begin with i prolly would have never noticed i needed a new prop, but i have the OJ version and between the growl and lack of power i wanted something new and i was leary on the 1235 as its really the same type of prop as the OJ. I wanted to make sure if i was comming out of pocket i got the best prop i could

jfox8807
11-13-2012, 08:12 AM
thanks mmandley and jmvotto i appreciate the advice i think im leaning more towards the 1617. next spring ill have to put up a review on it maybe a few stats help add to the wealth of knowledge maybe shed some light on the 1617 and its abilities

dusty2221
11-13-2012, 11:31 AM
I also run the 1617 prop.

KG's Supra24
11-13-2012, 10:57 PM
Why do i have the 1433?

I thought i knew but may have no idea. I was thinking it was the 1235 if you aren't worried about clearance?

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mmandley
11-14-2012, 12:16 PM
Why do i have the 1433?

I thought i knew but may have no idea. I was thinking it was the 1235 if you aren't worried about clearance?

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1433 is a 14 diameter http://www.wakeprops.com/acme-1433-propeller.html
1435 is a 14.5 diameter http://www.wakeprops.com/acme-1235-propeller.html

1617 is is a 14 diameter http://www.wakeprops.com/acme-1617-propeller.html

1435 and 1433 have the same Pitch at 14.25
1617 has a different pitch at 13.75

rdlangston13
11-14-2012, 12:56 PM
1433 is a 14 diameter http://www.wakeprops.com/acme-1433-propeller.html
1235 is a 14.5 diameter http://www.wakeprops.com/acme-1235-propeller.html

1617 is is a 14 diameter http://www.wakeprops.com/acme-1617-propeller.html

1235 and 1433 have the same Pitch at 14.25
1617 has a different pitch at 13.75

there yah go mike, i got your back

KG's Supra24
11-14-2012, 01:09 PM
So you are saying its for people that are worried there will be clearance issues?

Surely it is the same performance as the 1235? When buying, I was told it was the one to buy at the time (this is prior to the 1617 coming out). I have been happy with it but just always see the 1235 pop up with no mention of the 1433.

mmandley
11-14-2012, 02:02 PM
So you are saying its for people that are worried there will be clearance issues?

Surely it is the same performance as the 1235? When buying, I was told it was the one to buy at the time (this is prior to the 1617 coming out). I have been happy with it but just always see the 1235 pop up with no mention of the 1433.

Yes i think you are correct in the only real difference in clearence.

Yes i do think the 1617 is a newer prop that came out to combat the ballast systems people are running. Its very simular and really other then it being quite compared to my OJ i only felt a difference when the boat was loaded down.

My buddy said he feels like it pulls harder from a stop at the end of the rope and this maybe true as this year was the first year i ran it and also the first time i have injured my shoulder getting pulled up from a stop.

Normally i would have let go with a hard pull, but i was also determined to get wake skatting down and the board i was using is a PITA to get up on. So i was holding for dear life and didnt want to let go LOL

beat taco
11-14-2012, 02:29 PM
I too run the 1433. It is just what you have posted. Before I got mine I was told the difference between the 1235 and 1433 is not noticeable.

spencerwm
11-19-2012, 07:53 PM
That is correct. The difference is not noticeable as it is the same prop minus a 1/4" off each blade.

Just a heads up that Acme has notified us of a price increase that will take affect 01/01/2013. It is not small. WakePROPS.com (http://www.wakeprops.com/wakeboard-boat-propeller-finder/moomba-wakeboard-boat-propellers) is currently putting all props on sale to match our competitors through the end of the year.

With that said the Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale will give you an additional discount. It will be worth it to buy in 2012. The retail on an Acme 1433 is going up to $610.00.

bergermaister
11-20-2012, 02:28 AM
Yikes - glad I bought when I did.

Still leaves me wondering......... WHY???

I would think with new design, product innovation, more radical 5-blades, etc the cost would/could go down.

wolfeman131
11-20-2012, 10:40 AM
Still leaves me wondering......... WHY???


Obama.

'Nuff said. 'Merica!

jmvotto
11-20-2012, 11:33 AM
Now that's funny.
Sad but True....

spencerwm
11-20-2012, 03:44 PM
Yikes - glad I bought when I did.

Still leaves me wondering......... WHY???

I would think with new design, product innovation, more radical 5-blades, etc the cost would/could go down.

Props are a giant piece of Nibral (alloy of nickel, bronze, and aluminum) that is CNC'ed down to a finished product. Acme has absorbed the raw material cost increases for the past two seasons. I would have rather seen smaller price increases every year rather than the bigger increases dealers and consumers will see for 2013. Talk about sticker shock.

More innovations in my opinion will drive the price up. As manufacturers start to add more blades and deliver more precise products to increase efficiency the labor costs will rise.

jfox8807
11-20-2012, 04:43 PM
thanks for the heads up just orderd my 1617 minutes ago. 485 bucks

KG's Supra24
11-20-2012, 05:44 PM
Thanks for the rational, likely more accurate, response. :oops:

EricU
11-20-2012, 06:55 PM
... just orderd my 1617 minutes ago...

So is the 1617 the one for wakeboarding/surfing behind an '02 LSV that I am redoing the complete ballast system?

I just bought the boat earlier this year and it came with low hours and a well dinged up prop.

Eric.

beat taco
11-20-2012, 09:02 PM
So is the 1617 the one for wakeboarding/surfing behind an '02 LSV that I am redoing the complete ballast system?

I just bought the boat earlier this year and it came with low hours and a well dinged up prop.

Eric.

Don't make me give you the "c'mon man" :) I got a deal on the 1433....really curious what that "deal" costs me in fuel.....zzziiiiiiiiippppppp....

EricU
11-20-2012, 09:43 PM
Don't make me give you the "c'mon man" :) I got a deal on the 1433....really curious what that "deal" costs me in fuel.....zzziiiiiiiiippppppp....

Jake,

I guess I missed the point of your post, but I need a new prop, and since I got the big brown truck delivering the boxes-O-ballast to my house, I figured while Christmas is here, they might as well throw in a prop as my current one looks like the guy before me slapped the curb quite a few times with the prop.

After reading this thread, I was just wondering if I should order a 1433 or a 1617 for my little ol yellow tow boat.

Eric.

beat taco
11-20-2012, 10:17 PM
Sorry, I really like the pitch of the 1617 and my number two choice is 1847, number three a tie between 1433 & 1235. So will I buy a 1617, zziiiippp??

KG's Supra24
11-20-2012, 10:45 PM
You should call about your particular boat to be certain, imo

Beat, might try to snag dustys opinion before a switch. He has 1617 and i have 1433. I haven't driven his since the switch.

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EricU
11-21-2012, 12:10 AM
You should call about your particular boat to be certain, imo...

I did call and I was told "I would suggest using something like the Acme 1433 prop which will give you a lot more low end hole shot. "

Good news is, my current prop is so dinged up (bent) that the cardboard box should give better results.

Eric.

KG's Supra24
11-21-2012, 12:20 AM
Hmmm. Recent? From my understanding the 1617 is a recent improvement on the 1433/1235.

You will be good either way. The 1433 was a solid upgrade from factory upgrade oj wake prop door me.

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EricU
11-21-2012, 12:23 AM
Hmmm. Recent? From my understanding the 1617 is a recent improvement on the 1433/1235...

It was today, of course with the caveat of "I would suggest using something like...."

Eric

KG's Supra24
11-21-2012, 12:44 AM
And the 1617 is "like" the 1433. :banghead:

I can't remember diameter but think it is posted several post up. (im on phone and can't see). Consensus seems to be 1617 is now best performance. 1433 is for clearance (if indeed 1617 is larger).

Edit: I'm not sure we have seen a 1617 and 1235/1433 direct comparison?

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EricU
11-21-2012, 01:53 AM
...I can't remember diameter but think it is posted several post up. (im on phone and can't see). Consensus seems to be 1617 is now best performance. 1433 is for clearance (if indeed 1617 is larger)...


From the WM website; Diam. x Pitch

1235 4 Blade 14.5" x 14.25"
1433 4 Blade 14" x 14.25"
1617 4 Blade 14" x 13.75"

beat taco
11-21-2012, 02:03 AM
From the WM website; Diam. x Pitch

1235 4 Blade 14.5" x 14.25"
1433 4 Blade 14" x 14.25"
1617 4 Blade 14" x 13.75"

And the 1847 14x14.25 cup .150
Cup on the 1235/1433 .105
Cup on the 1617 .075

jfox8807
11-21-2012, 06:44 AM
After talkin to dusty and MMandley i decided to go with the 1617 im still runing stock on my 2011 xlv and after the winter ballast upgrades it would just not give the performance i want imo. dusty and mmandley both gave the 1617 high reviews but the 1847 was rated really high as well. lots of people have had good things to say about the 1847. as for the 1235/1433 i seen alot of people sayin they had one . i never found anyone talkin bad about them but i also never heard anyone just raving about how great they where either. i have never had anythin but stock myself on my boat but next yr when i get my 1617 on ill post up some detailed stats so we can add to the wealth of knowledge on the forum

EricU
11-21-2012, 01:57 PM
Sorry, I really like the pitch of the 1617 and my number two choice is 1847, ... So will I buy a 1617, zziiiippp??

Santa Claus just called and said "Ziiiiiiiipppppp" and a 1617 is on the way.

So far with all the ballast upgrades and now a new prop, I am still under a basic snowboarding weekend at Squaw -- without the rediculous weekend traffic.

Eric.

spencerwm
11-21-2012, 08:48 PM
After talkin to dusty and MMandley i decided to go with the 1617 im still runing stock on my 2011 xlv and after the winter ballast upgrades it would just not give the performance i want imo. dusty and mmandley both gave the 1617 high reviews but the 1847 was rated really high as well. lots of people have had good things to say about the 1847. as for the 1235/1433 i seen alot of people sayin they had one . i never found anyone talkin bad about them but i also never heard anyone just raving about how great they where either. i have never had anythin but stock myself on my boat but next yr when i get my 1617 on ill post up some detailed stats so we can add to the wealth of knowledge on the forum

The 1235 has been know to be a little too big when it comes to trailer clearance. The 1433 is basically the same thing so that is the best option for boaters looking to gain a lot of low end hole shot when running with ballast or at higher elevations. There will be a reduction in top end speed as the lower pitch will create more drag.

The 1847 is very similar to the 1433. In my opinion the performance characteristics are too close and if you are going to spend the money get the best bang.

If you run more than 2500 lbs. of ballast the 1617 is an awesome prop. By lowering the pitch to 13.75" the boat will have no problem getting to surf speeds or up on plane when wakeboarding. Even when you are pulling up a 250+ lb. rider. If you do not need to scream across the lake or barefoot there is nothing better.

With all of this said Acme has a ton of props in the line. There is something for everyone. We know people do ski behind their v-drive boats and if that is a concern contact WakeProps or buy an Acme 1939.

Happy Turkey Day!

KRAK
11-21-2012, 09:17 PM
Here's my ACME 1235 on my '10 LSV w/boatmate trailer.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/22/tesu8u9u.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/22/5ava4yby.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/22/ysumyru7.jpg
Still love the hole shot and it tops out at 38.5mph no ballast.


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jfox8807
11-22-2012, 10:38 AM
The 1235 has been know to be a little too big when it comes to trailer clearance. The 1433 is basically the same thing so that is the best option for boaters looking to gain a lot of low end hole shot when running with ballast or at higher elevations. There will be a reduction in top end speed as the lower pitch will create more drag.

The 1847 is very similar to the 1433. In my opinion the performance characteristics are too close and if you are going to spend the money get the best bang.

If you run more than 2500 lbs. of ballast the 1617 is an awesome prop. By lowering the pitch to 13.75" the boat will have no problem getting to surf speeds or up on plane when wakeboarding. Even when you are pulling up a 250+ lb. rider. If you do not need to scream across the lake or barefoot there is nothing better.

With all of this said Acme has a ton of props in the line. There is something for everyone. We know people do ski behind their v-drive boats and if that is a concern contact WakeProps or buy an Acme 1939.

Happy Turkey Day!

yea thats y i got the 1617 im not concernd with ski or barefoot and i hope to be running 3600lb ballast by the time the weather gets right again. ive also been told that people still get 38 on top end so thats anuff for the run to the marina and stuff to eat or back to the landing.