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E4NASH
06-13-2011, 06:22 PM
I am thinking about upgrading the remote on my dash to the Kenwood 107MR. I was wondering if anyone has managed to fit the larger remote in the factory location on the dash. I know a section would have to be cut out in order for it to fit and it definitely has the potential to not look very good if its not done right. On the newer boats the remote is located on the side which from what I've seen is easier to replace. If I was to put mine on the side I would still have the factory remote on the dash. That there is a deal breaker to me.

I suppose I could have something made the same size as the factory remote to place in that hole if I chose to remove it...hmmm....stainless etched Moomba logo maybe??

Any suggestions?

Also, can two of these remotes be used on the KMR440U?

EarmarkMarine
06-13-2011, 07:21 PM
The outside to outside of the holes for the mounting studs of the factory remote should be about 2.25". So the rectangular display remote should cover all that and its just a matter of whether there is enough flat surface area to install the display remote.
A photo or two with dimensions might stir an idea or two.
There is an adapter to allow two display remotes.

David
Earmark Marine

E4NASH
06-14-2011, 10:52 AM
Unfortunately, in my boat where the factory remote is on the dash, it is not flat...it is somewhat recessed in. I can't take a picture as the boat is in back in storage and won't be back out until probably the first weekend in July. I don't think I would feel comfortable cutting that area out either. I don't think it would maintain the continuity of the dash and probably couldn't even be done.

I will probably see about placing it on the side and removing the remote on the dash and relocating it to the bow. Then getting something made the same dimensions to cover the hole.

Not going to do anything right away just kinda thinking out loud but the more I use the boat I realize how limited the standard remote is and how much nicer it would be to be able to control all features of the radio from the helm instead of having to walk someone through navigating the radio as I am driving.

mmandley
06-14-2011, 11:03 AM
E4NSH, i have that remote and flush mounted it at the factory location. Me and Newty both did it on our boats.

Its not to hard, there is just enough room and you just heat the plastic frame up on the curner with a heat gun and it will form to the panel perfectly. Then you slide the remote in and bolt her up.

I can get you some pictures of you like.

I used to have a thread that had all those pictures till it was deleted by someone.

E4NASH
06-14-2011, 11:06 AM
Mike,

Pictures would be great! But isn't the '05 Dash different from your '08? I think the mounting position is a little different. Shoot me the pics and I'll take a look.

-Erik

mmandley
06-14-2011, 11:09 AM
Yes sorry i didnt see your boat year, i think the side panels are pretty simular but not positive. Ill get some pics later today and post them.

bbuhtz
06-16-2011, 05:09 PM
I just put one in my dash lastnight, here are some photos... i used a drill, dremel, and vacuum, lol.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/extreme360/252418_874993494133_27202701_42236751_4803364_n.jp g
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/extreme360/252558_874993678763_27202701_42236752_1985433_n.jp g
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/extreme360/251093_874993898323_27202701_42236753_2694328_n.jp g
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/extreme360/251122_874994222673_27202701_42236756_8218617_n.jp g

bbuhtz
06-16-2011, 05:10 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/extreme360/252506_874994507103_27202701_42236758_6565389_n.jp g
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/extreme360/247957_874994771573_27202701_42236760_5909984_n.jp g

E4NASH
06-17-2011, 12:33 PM
EXCELLENT! That is EXACTLY what I was looking for....thank you sir! :D

mmandley
06-21-2011, 02:18 PM
If your so inclined you can atuchaly heat the dash up and it can be pressed to flush on the remote.

We did this on mine to make it nice and even. I of course have mine mounted in the panel on the side, much easier to remove then a dash.

Of course i understand on yours you would have to remove the entire dash, but if you ever get so inclined it will work lol.

E4NASH
04-19-2012, 12:46 PM
Bringing this thread back because I am probably going to do this install this weekend on the new (2011) boat. Does anyone have a how to on how to install this in the front and at the transom? I'm REALLY nervous about drilling holes. These will NOT be flush mounted at this time. I can run the wires fine...it's the drilling I am concerned about.

Also, does anyone know how to remove the MB Quart remote? I was feeling around behind it last night and couldn't really tell.

Thanks!

harmsway
04-19-2012, 11:30 PM
E,
I'm not sure what remote that is used with MB, but I have a couple of shots of the 107mr being installed were the factory aware remote was installed at the helm. You can see them in my stereo install album if interested.

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?17309-Transom-remote-install
This link should also help you with the transom remote install. Should be the same steps required if you are not flush mounting. If you are going to flush mount you will need to cut a massive hole in the transom, which a few on here have down.

harmsway
04-19-2012, 11:47 PM
E,
One other thing, I believe I read in another post that you have the kmr550u and that stereo may not support the 107mr remotes. I know the kmr440u will support only 107mr, but it does not have the ability to assign more then 1 ip address to support multiple 107mr. And at a quick glance the kmr550u does't support the 107mr at all. Please correct me if I am wrong.

E4NASH
04-20-2012, 01:37 AM
The 440u is discontinued and the 550u is the replacement. According to crutchfield and the manual it should support the remotes. I researched it quite a bit cause they are pricey and I had to make sure it would work. Hopefully my research wasn't wrong if so I'll have a radio for sale.

*edit* Page 72 of the manual suggests that it will work and allows up to 2 remote IDs. The 440U would work with 2. I can't imagine that it's replacement wouldn't...


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E4NASH
04-20-2012, 01:39 AM
Excellent write up that will help me a lot thanks!


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E4NASH
04-21-2012, 01:51 AM
FYI -Today, we installed the Kenwood 550U head unit and replaced the MB Quart remote with a KCA-RC107MR and then added a second one at the transom. So I have confirmed that the 550U will work with 2 107 remotes. Also if anyone want to upgrade from the MB Quart radio, it's not easy. Had to cut out an opening for the new DIN size Kenwood. The MB Quart is mounted like a remote and the 'brain' unit is actually mounted in the observer's compartment. Fun times I tell ya...fun times! But happy with how it turned out and the system is one more step closer to sounding as it should.


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harmsway
04-21-2012, 08:52 AM
Great to know about 2 107 remotes working with the 550u, I might have to upgrade from the 440u. Did you take any pics would like to see the final install.

E4NASH
04-21-2012, 12:02 PM
I got a few I will post them a little later. We are thinking about flush mounting the rear remote. I'm a little hesitant because it's a big hole and what if the remote quits working and they discontinue that remote or something?

Haven't even had the boat a week yet and I've already had her under the knife!

Today I may do the dual battery install. Already have the Perko switch installed so it shouldn't be that difficult...not compared to yesterday anyway.


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E4NASH
04-21-2012, 08:48 PM
Did not do the dual battery setup today. Maybe next weekend. But here are some pics of the stereo and remote install:

Before: 13962

After: 13966

Finished: 13963

*It's not PERFECT but it's good enough for me. (Not bad at my first attempt EVER cutting Fiberglass)

Driver's Remote: 13964

Transom Remote: 13965

I may go ahead and flush mount the transom remote. I kinda wish it was a little further to the right but it is where it is now...

wolfeman131
04-21-2012, 10:11 PM
Nice work, E!

jpetty3023
04-21-2012, 11:10 PM
Not bad at all for your first rodeo E. good work and much props to you for tackling a DIY like that on a new boat


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