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jstenger
09-03-2011, 11:14 PM
I am seeing if anyone has done this or thought about it. I shut my engine off evertime people board or get out of my boat. The problem is that the Moomba Cruise when left on resets to 0 mph and the boat goes nowhere. I want to disconnect the source wire from the ignition and rewire it to the constant on power source so that it stays on when I shut the boat off. This way it will keep the speed setting that I have set when I turn the boat on and off. I can turn the cruise on after I start my boat, and then shut it off at the end of the day.

08LSV
09-04-2011, 12:13 AM
I am assuming you have the same system "Moomba Cruise" that I had on my '08 and it is RPM based not MPH.The problem with the Moomba cruise is that any time you throttle down or shift to neutral if you do not turn the cruise off and try to start again it will bog down with the RPM limiter and not accelerate properly. I learned this as others here by doing it and not knowing what was happening, then I asked on the forum about the bogging down after I pick up a rider and the first question asked by everyone was "is your cruise on".... The answer was to turn the cruise off when I picked up the rider, get up to speed again and turn it back on. So the answer to your question if it is the same cruise as the one I had is no, it will not make a difference to wire it hot all the time. Hence the reason a lot of us have switched to Perfect Pass. Yes it is expensive but worth it in my opinion. Hope that answers your question.

jstenger
09-04-2011, 06:09 PM
As long as you keep the boat running, which will keep the green light blinking, the cruise will maintain the same speed setting no matter if you go to neutral or reverse or anything else. It is when you shut the boat off, which shuts the green light off, that you lose your settings. By the way, the cruise is speed based as of 2010 model year. I just want to keep the power to the cruise on at all times unless I actually turn the switch off.

ian ashton
09-04-2011, 06:32 PM
Just pay attention to RPM and reset every time you start. On my boat 2,500 = 20mph in the spot we ride in. Using the cruise with RPM vs. Speed drastically improved my perception of it's performance.

08LSV
09-04-2011, 11:40 PM
Interesting to know they changed the cruise to speed vs rpm in '10. Another problem with running it hot all the time is that anytime you forget and leave it on while your just relaxing or whatever is that it will be draining your battery along with the stereo and whatever else is on. It may be more hassle to remember to turn it off once you get used to leaving it on all the time. It was not to much of a problem for us as we only turned the engine off when changing riders and were used to turning it off every time we turned around to pick up a fallen rider. I know that is not what you want to hear, but I could see several issues with running it as all time hot...

jmb
09-05-2011, 03:00 PM
Hook the hot wire to your accy switch on your dash. You can leave it and shut the boat off. It will stay on. I do like my perfect pass though. I can preset 8 (I think) and it will remember them. Just bring up the name and go. I love it.

KSmith
09-05-2011, 04:36 PM
Please let us know how that works when you're done. I have a 2010 OBV as well and same basic Moomba Cruise. If this works I'd like to know more about how the modificatin was done. Thanks!

LakePerson1952
09-06-2011, 12:11 PM
I have the same issue on my 2010 Outback. I can deal with the reset on "ignition off" but it is a hassle and, because I like to have the speed control already set when my lady pulls me, it means that I always have to go into the water with the engine on (I don't allow others to do that). It will be interesting to hear the results from having the CC always "hot" - please post results. I may try to measure the amount of current it draws when on but with the throttle in neutral. It would probably be easy to remember to turn the CC "off" whenever trailoring (because I put my drain plug on the dash under the CC) but it might be easy to forget if the boat is left at the dock.

viking
09-06-2011, 07:12 PM
It's always been problematic with us too. I'm interested now as well in a solution that runs power from an accessory switch on the dash. It'd be no more an issue than remembering to turn your stereo switch to "off" when your done for the day.
Sounds like a good "how to thread"

KSmith
09-19-2011, 01:01 PM
Hey jstenger, any updatea on this? Thanks!

cab13367
09-19-2011, 04:43 PM
I remember proposing this on another thread. Why doesn't someone with Moomba cruise just try it? Seems simple enough to rewire the power to the unit to a separate switch. You can buy one at the autoparts store for a few bucks and wire it up temporarily and see if it works.

Kinda funny how everyone is waiting for some else to do the leg work :)

jstenger
09-30-2011, 11:27 AM
UPDATE: I started to look into the wiring, but I ran out of time. It also got cold and rainy up here in Michigan, so boating has kind of been put on the backburner. All the wiring from the cruise goes under the floor and back to the engine compartment. I will do some more wire tracing before I winterize it. I know that I could easily use a meter to find the ignition "on" wire that feeds the cruise, but I want to see were it comes from.

KSmith
10-04-2011, 08:42 AM
UPDATE: I started to look into the wiring, but I ran out of time. It also got cold and rainy up here in Michigan, so boating has kind of been put on the backburner. All the wiring from the cruise goes under the floor and back to the engine compartment. I will do some more wire tracing before I winterize it. I know that I could easily use a meter to find the ignition "on" wire that feeds the cruise, but I want to see were it comes from.

Thanks for the update and am Looking forward to the next update!

jstenger
10-12-2011, 11:47 AM
UPDATE: The only thing that I know for sure is that the purple wire going into the cruise is the (+) wire which is energized when the ignition is on. It comes from the engine compartment. I plan on cutting that wire and connecting it to the (+) block under the dash. Unfortunately, my boat is now winterized and tucked away in the barn, so I will rewire it over the winter and try it out next spring.

rdlangston13
03-26-2012, 01:01 AM
we need an update on this

jstenger
03-27-2012, 02:22 PM
UPDATE: I was actually working on this Sunday. There is a 6 pin connecting block under the dash that connects the Moomba Cruise with a wire harness that goes to the engine compartment. I pulled out the purple wire on the Cruise side of the block. The wire was very easy to get out. I then clipped it to the positive block under the dash with a short jumper and aligator clips. The green light glowed dim as it would normally with the engine running but the Cruise off. I turned the Cruise on with the engine off, but the light would not brighten or even blink. Once I turned the ignition to on, it would blink as normal. I plan to put the boat in the water as soon as these 32 degree days stop up here in Michigan to see if it will retain its setting once you shut the engine off. If it works, I will hook the purple wire up to the stereo switch. That way I can turn it on and off each day.

KSmith
03-27-2012, 06:09 PM
Thanks and looking forward to your next update!

bhowell
04-11-2012, 12:33 PM
If this works, you are going to cost Perfect Pass some profits. I don't think you will save these guys any money though cause they will just spend it on other upgrades! :cool:

jstenger
05-20-2012, 05:38 PM
UPDATE: Well, I finally got the boat in the water today. Rewiring the Cruise didnt't work. I made a pass with the boat and set the cruise. I brought the boat to a stop and didn't shut anything off. I kept the cruise powered on as I shot the engine off. I started the engine back up and gave it some throttle. Boat didn't go anywhere. Exactly what happens in the stock condition when you shut the boat off and forget to turn the cruise off. I am going to wire it back up just like it came from the factory and give the whole rewire thing a rest. If for some reason I think of anything else, I will post again.

viking
05-21-2012, 02:08 AM
SOAB..................I might have to play with this this year?