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RickT
06-30-2012, 09:19 PM
The Latest new model in the Moomba line gets unveiled. More Soon!!!!

jmvotto
06-30-2012, 10:01 PM
Awesome. Seems like the mojo was just released. Great to see some new ideas, even though I am kinda one of those classic kinda folks...

Boonejeepin
06-30-2012, 10:04 PM
Can't wait to see the new product! Surf inspired?

ian ashton
06-30-2012, 10:09 PM
Closed bow cuddy cabin inboard Wakeboat? If so, I'll take the first one off the line!

maxpower220
07-01-2012, 08:04 AM
A 19.5', pickle forked, slalom machine, with no wake at 30-34 mph at lines lengths of 15-35' off. Perfect!

kaneboats
07-01-2012, 10:29 AM
The Outback II-- no wake ski boat with tower -- loaded down it throws a tournament wakeboard wake and seats 12.

bzubke1
07-01-2012, 11:20 AM
Redesigned LSV with a playpen.

Boonejeepin
07-01-2012, 11:24 AM
New flagship of the Moomba pontoon line? Fully loaded with a BBQ.

I'll order 2.

Can't wait to see what is really in store.

WaterBullDawg1980
07-01-2012, 12:45 PM
Let me guess......A Tennessee Vol inspired deck boat that plays Rocky Top on a loop?? #Swag

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RickT
07-01-2012, 12:49 PM
Your all close. ha.

501
07-01-2012, 01:01 PM
I predict either a Mojo-20' or a Mojo-24'. So far my Buddy's Mojo 2.5 has been top notch! I love that boat.

rdlangston13
07-01-2012, 01:24 PM
a mojo witha playpen bow and without a fugly dash.

or an lsv with 3" more free board and a play pen bow

WaterBullDawg1980
07-01-2012, 01:34 PM
This is awesome Rick. So I am envisioning a 19.5 foot closed bow cuddy cabin with a playpen pickle forked nose that sits on pontoons. This boat will be a slalom machine, with no wake at 30-34 mph at lines lengths of 15-35' off but can be loaded down to throw a tournament wakeboard wake and seats 12. The boat will be have a fully loaded with a BBQ that comes standard as well as a stereo system that blares Rocky Top on a loop. Also standard.

One question....Will there be hard tanks?

You guys have truly outdone yourself! You can put me down one of the first ones! Although I would like to see about an alternative to Rocky Top. Doesn't sit well with the folks on GA lakes. :)

And the real version with the Osborne Brothers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n9prNixjbg

zabooda
07-01-2012, 01:43 PM
MOJO 2.5F. The wake/surf and fishing model with ballast tanks that also serves as live wells. Pop-up rod holders as an option.

WaterBullDawg1980
07-01-2012, 02:24 PM
MOJO 2.5F. The wake/surf and fishing model with ballast tanks that also serves as live wells. Pop-up rod holders as an option.

I guess I am a redneck, but this would be awesome.

volfo
07-01-2012, 04:02 PM
I swear, I have the ONLY skier's choice product at our marina (probably 200 slips) on Center Hill.

Mine is a 2001 and I plan to upgrade in the next couple of years. I would love a new Moomba or Supra and think the advertising alone should make it worth it to Skier's Choice to cut me a great deal! Our dock is full of Mastercrafts and Malibus with at least 4 Tige's I can think of, probably 5 Nautiques, even an Axis and yes, even an Epic - but no supras and just my lonely Moomba!

I'm guessing an update / replacement for the LSV. As awesome as that boat is, it was born in 2006. Whatever it is, I mostly hope I can afford it!

ian ashton
07-01-2012, 04:50 PM
I just hope the term "game changer" stays out of the marketing plan.

Hoopskier
07-01-2012, 05:25 PM
Wolfman had a recent thread about how he caught the term "new Outback" on Moomba's Facebook page. I thought is was in reference to just a new 2012 model. But, now it has me wondering, maybe a redesign of the Outback. All the other models have been redesigned but the current hull is 03-present. http://yfrog.com/nyspmbmj I just didnt think it would happen with the recent release of the MOJO.

volfo
07-01-2012, 05:27 PM
I'd like a big, wide, v drive that surfs well and is just deep enough without being too deep and that I can afford. Lines of the LSV but with size of the Mojo. (that last part sounds like I'm describing a Supra 22 . . . )

volfo
07-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Hoops, I bet you're right. That photo doesn't look like the current outback, does it? If so, then maybe it's something else - but if that doesn't look like the current outback, then I bet that's the answer. That certainly doesn't look like a v drive unless it's a really big one with the engine mounted below the rear bench seat like a big Sea Ray Sundeck, and I doubt they've done that . . .

Mobius22
07-01-2012, 05:45 PM
I predict either a Mojo-20' or a Mojo-24'. So far my Buddy's Mojo 2.5 has been top notch! I love that boat.


You gonna trade the X-30? :p

ian ashton
07-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Hoops, I bet you're right. That photo doesn't look like the current outback, does it? If so, then maybe it's something else - but if that doesn't look like the current outback, then I bet that's the answer. That certainly doesn't look like a v drive unless it's a really big one with the engine mounted below the rear bench seat like a big Sea Ray Sundeck, and I doubt they've done that . . .

That looks exactly like the current OB.

Id say the likelihood of a redesigned DD is zero.

jmvotto
07-01-2012, 09:32 PM
That looks exactly like the current OB.

Id say the likelihood of a redesigned DD is zero.

Yes, I agree. I just hope they bring back the 2007 to 2008 seat with bolster. The new bolsters are absolutely worthless.

mnpracing
07-01-2012, 10:30 PM
I'm guessing a redesigned topdeck for the LSV. Different seating arrangement and higher freeboard. What I would like is slightly deeper draft, heavier 22' boat, with more of a v-hull all the way to the stern unlike the current models that flatten out at the stern. So I continue to dream about a more surf-specific boat that doesn't need 2,500 lbs for a tournament wake.

brain_rinse
07-02-2012, 11:48 AM
Redesigned LSV with a playpen.



or an lsv with 3" more free board and a play pen bow


I'd like a big, wide, v drive that surfs well and is just deep enough without being too deep and that I can afford. Lines of the LSV but with size of the Mojo. (that last part sounds like I'm describing a Supra 22 . . . )


I'm guessing a redesigned topdeck for the LSV. Different seating arrangement and higher freeboard. What I would like is slightly deeper draft, heavier 22' boat, with more of a v-hull all the way to the stern unlike the current models that flatten out at the stern. So I continue to dream about a more surf-specific boat that doesn't need 2,500 lbs for a tournament wake.

I like how you guys think!


MOJO 2.5F. The wake/surf and fishing model with ballast tanks that also serves as live wells. Pop-up rod holders as an option.

Yeah, this would be pretty awesome too! Moomba CSX.

ChrisK
07-02-2012, 12:07 PM
On the Supra forum Rick mentioned they'll be unveiling the new Supra on the 22nd. Good to see SC has been busy.

supremedevice
07-02-2012, 12:29 PM
My guess is a strictly a boardsports-specific boat to respond to Axis and Epic's recent entrance into the market. With wake boarding and surfing becoming more popular, boat buyers are increasingly looking at wake-specific boats (even at small sizes) and a good number could care less about crossover performance. Since Moomba is no longer the only choice when a buyer is in the market for a price point inboard I think they need to think more about what the competition is offering and what people are buying.

rdlangston13
07-02-2012, 01:35 PM
we have decided that our next boat is going to be pickle fork just due to the fact the two adults can sit in the bow facing backwards comfortably. since i dont really like axis it looks like tige would be our next choice and the R20 is probably the closest in our price range. problem is the r20 is small, we would like something 22 ft so that leads to the RZ2 which is too expensive...so maybe they are coming out with a pickle fork style lsv with the play pen bow cause i still dont like the mojo very much.

dusty2221
07-02-2012, 04:33 PM
Wish I were going to these two events! Then again...to be able to own a 2012 242 Worlds would be a dream come true!!

https://evbdn.eventbrite.com/s3-s3/eventlogos/34142406/emailimage.jpg

https://evbdn.eventbrite.com/s3-s3/eventlogos/4849502/emailimagemoomba.jpg

E4NASH
07-02-2012, 04:49 PM
What are the specifics on the event? is it open to the public? If so what time and where? I would be interested in coming up form ATL to view the unveiling.

dusty2221
07-02-2012, 05:16 PM
Nah, it's the dealers meetings I believe.

jpetty3023
07-02-2012, 05:23 PM
Get your popcorn ready fellas. This is gonna be exciting and potentially costly


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tnbrooks01
07-02-2012, 08:01 PM
I just hope the term "game changer" stays out of the marketing plan.

+1 That has been way overused!!

motosno963
07-02-2012, 08:25 PM
MOJO 2.5F. The wake/surf and fishing model with ballast tanks that also serves as live wells. Pop-up rod holders as an option.mastercraft makes a model like this..the csx 220?

motosno963
07-02-2012, 08:39 PM
http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/30673_klj3fcwLJBq1M76TYyUbO3mXU.jpg

RickT
07-03-2012, 01:16 PM
First leaked pictures will be here. Some of you are pretty close. Some not. :)

I think you will like it.

KSmith
07-03-2012, 01:19 PM
So will this make me rethink my upgrade path from Supra Launch 22V?

moombadaze
07-03-2012, 02:20 PM
So will this make me rethink my upgrade path from Supra Launch 22V?

Yes.

now lets see in a little while if Im right.

bzubke1
07-03-2012, 03:48 PM
First leaked pictures will be here. Some of you are pretty close. Some not. :)

I think you will like it.

When, I'm not sure we can all wait until the 22nd or 24th.

brain_rinse
07-03-2012, 04:05 PM
When, I'm not sure we can all wait until the 22nd or 24th.
Off topic, but wanted to let you know I tried your ballast setup for my LSV last week and loved it. I still like a little extra junk in the trunk but the additional front weight was awesome. Thanks for the suggestion!

Mobius22
07-03-2012, 04:13 PM
New flagship of the Moomba pontoon line? Fully loaded with a BBQ.


This gets my vote

bzubke1
07-03-2012, 04:17 PM
Off topic, but wanted to let you know I tried your ballast setup for my LSV last week and loved it. I still like a little extra junk in the trunk but the additional front weight was awesome. Thanks for the suggestion!

Stock with a 750 in the bow and a 750 in the cabin?

brain_rinse
07-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Stock with a 750 in the bow and a 750 in the cabin?
Yeah, basically. I used a lot of human weight in my testing though. :)

I have the bow sac so I'm planning to get a bow filler cushion and add some additional weight underneath there. I wish I could just make a playpen...

jmvotto
07-03-2012, 04:24 PM
my bet is the New lsv, the ob does not drive enough sales to make sense

bzubke1
07-03-2012, 05:12 PM
Right on Dan. I'm guessing redisigned LSV just based on the fact that the teaser said a legend reborn or something along those lines.

moombadaze
07-04-2012, 08:07 PM
Right on Dan. I'm guessing redisigned LSV just based on the fact that the teaser said a legend reborn or something along those lines.

if so, I hope they keep the current lsv hull in production somehow-its just about perfect for familys and hardcores

rdlangston13
07-04-2012, 11:47 PM
if so, I hope they keep the current lsv hull in production somehow-its just about perfect for familys and hardcores

They need to increase the freeboard about 3 inches and decrease the weight sensitivity....then it will be about perfect


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jmvotto
07-05-2012, 09:49 AM
They need to increase the freeboard about 3 inches and decrease the weight sensitivity....then it will be about perfect


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isnt that called a MOJO... and Drew did not even pay me to say that

rdlangston13
07-05-2012, 10:47 AM
No, the mojo has a fugly dash and weird front end. The front end actually isn't that weird but they do need to flatten out the the far forward seat backs to make it more like a square so two adults can sit up there facing backwards without being funneled into each other


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jpetty3023
07-05-2012, 11:32 AM
Have you rode a mojo yet David?

wolfeman131
07-05-2012, 03:03 PM
As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder . . .

What you call fugly, I call functional. I love that all vitals can be seen at a glance versus a full scan as it was with my OBV and gauges that spanned some 2ft, side to side.

But, if you want fugly and 2 adults across the front, go grab yourself a MB Tomcat. One of the absolute worst front ends on a boat out there, IMO.

dusty2221
07-05-2012, 03:08 PM
Yeah, but does it slosh?

rdlangston13
07-05-2012, 05:35 PM
Yeah, but does it slosh?

I agree, the MB front ends are hideous. Its not just the two solo gauges that are fugly lol. Its just the whole presentation of it. Axis i believe only has two main gauges and they are not fugly. I think it would be an easy fix for SC to make.

wolfeman131
07-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Yeah, but does it slosh?

I blame it on the beers!

RickT
07-08-2012, 04:35 PM
The new boat unveiled will be the all new Mobius LSV.

tnbrooks01
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
The new boat unveiled will be the all new Mobius LSV.

I think a "sneak-a-peek" photo is in order.

Can't wait!


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Boonejeepin
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
Looking forward to the new LSV!!!!

jpetty3023
07-08-2012, 07:48 PM
I think a "sneak-a-peek" photo is in order.

Can't wait!


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I second..

Mobius22
07-08-2012, 07:51 PM
The new boat unveiled will be the all new Mobius LSV.


Can't wait to see it!

RickT
07-08-2012, 08:12 PM
A little bit of the old with a lot of the new. :)

zabooda
07-08-2012, 08:50 PM
That is exactly what I'm looking for in a girlfriend!

E4NASH
07-08-2012, 09:06 PM
The new boat unveiled will be the all new Mobius LSV.

Of course it is! Right after I just bought a new one! Can't wait to see it nonetheless!!


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Mobius22
07-08-2012, 09:32 PM
Of course it is! Right after I just bought a new one! Can't wait to see it nonetheless!!


Trade it? :p

E4NASH
07-08-2012, 09:38 PM
Trade it? :p

Ha! Let's see what it looks like first before we get all crazy...


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kaneboats
07-10-2012, 12:15 AM
I had a dream last night that I saw the new LSV. Wow! Very cool. It had some of the old but was all new!

jpetty3023
07-10-2012, 09:22 AM
I had a dream last night that I saw the new LSV. Wow! Very cool. It had some of the old but was all new!

Does this mean that Rick T joined y'all in the ATL?


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moombadaze
07-10-2012, 09:27 AM
Get your popcorn ready fellas. This is gonna be exciting and potentially costly


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Yes it is, anybody interested in a 08lsv

wolfeman131
07-10-2012, 10:24 AM
Hmmmmmm . . .

Might have been a self-induced hallucination from the heat, food and beverages at the Sinclair Jam so don't take this as gospel, but I got a few hints:

Snappity, snap, snap - should make for some happy folks!
Jenny Craig might need to come to the rescue as she's put on 600 lbs (standard vs current optional - you do the math!)
The Beach Boys would like the back end of this lady. So would Sir Mix A Lot!

Boonejeepin
07-10-2012, 10:35 AM
Hmmmmmm . . .

Might have been a self-induced hallucination from the heat, food and beverages at the Sinclair Jam so don't take this as gospel, but I got a few hints:

Snappity, snap, snap - should make for some happy folks!
Jenny Craig might need to come to the rescue as she's put on 600 lbs (standard vs current optional - you do the math!)
The Beach Boys would like the back end of this lady. So would Sir Mix A Lot!

Took me a second to get the snappily part. I need more coffee.

The weight factor seems very cool!

dusty2221
07-10-2012, 10:36 AM
Hmmmmmmmm.....

New Guy
07-10-2012, 10:58 AM
Very interesting, might be completely changing ideas on a new boat.

volfo
07-10-2012, 11:10 AM
snappity snap snap? I guess I need more coffee. Is this referring to a new ballast system like the gates on the MB (fills up and drains in a snap (with no pumps)?)

mnpracing
07-10-2012, 11:14 AM
Snappity, snap, snap - should make for some happy folks!
Jenny Craig might need to come to the rescue as she's put on 600 lbs (standard vs current optional - you do the math!)
The Beach Boys would like the back end of this lady. So would Sir Mix A Lot!


My guesses:
1. snap-in carpet
2. heavier dry boat. Could just be more stock ballast capacity. Both would be good.
3. no idea, but perhaps a walk-through on the sunpad like the tige Z3, with a step to sit on, and a retractable ski pylon.

rca
07-10-2012, 11:15 AM
I'm guessing carpet....

wolfeman131
07-10-2012, 11:34 AM
snappity snap snap? I guess I need more coffee. Is this referring to a new ballast system like the gates on the MB (fills up and drains in a snap (with no pumps)?)

Get more coffee

patrick232
07-10-2012, 12:08 PM
My only request is could we have it still fit in a 84" tall garage. For the first time in 10 years I have a boat that fits and its kinda nice.

patrick232
07-10-2012, 12:23 PM
My only request is could we have it still fit in a 84" tall garage. For the first time in 10 years I have a boat that fits and its kinda nice.

wolfeman131
07-10-2012, 12:37 PM
Posting the same thing twice will not make your dreams come true.

patrick232
07-10-2012, 02:36 PM
Don't know how I did it twice, please delete one.

jpetty3023
07-10-2012, 05:07 PM
Posting the same thing twice will not make your dreams come true.

LMAO!!


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mnpracing
07-10-2012, 05:11 PM
My only request is could we have it still fit in a 84" tall garage. For the first time in 10 years I have a boat that fits and its kinda nice.

That's a must-have for me as well. My current LSV is 86" tall so I have to switch hitches to a 6" drop hitch to get it in and out of the garage. I'll measure more precisely before buying my next boat....

New Guy
07-10-2012, 05:42 PM
Word on the street is that the XLV is discontinued and the Mojo took its place. Also that the new boat will be a variation of the LSV.

KSmith
07-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Here it is folks, the first sneak peak. At great risk to our agents and their lives they got a shot of the prototype hull. Looks like alot of chine and tracking fin action going on, must have some killer straight line stability.

15296

zabooda
07-10-2012, 08:53 PM
Looks like a sailboat to me.

dusty2221
07-10-2012, 08:59 PM
Moomba saiLSV?

KG's Supra24
07-10-2012, 09:10 PM
Now that's going green

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New Guy
07-11-2012, 04:39 PM
Alright Rick what do you have for us? Some kind of a teaser.

Mobius22
07-11-2012, 11:50 PM
Not LSV related but it appears Diggs got some pics of the new Supra wake and posted them on WW in the Supra new model thread. I gatta say it looks completely awesome.

jmvotto
07-12-2012, 10:05 AM
Word on the street is that the XLV is discontinued and the Mojo took its place. Also that the new boat will be a variation of the LSV.

That would be a shame if they eliminated it. I believe the XLV has the extra bells and whistles with fit and finish that buyers are looking for. moomba not having a 23ft boat in that space would be a shame when all the competitors are building there larger products.

:(I guess my next ride would have to be the 242 unless that flagship gets mothballed as well....

Dont want to here about the mojo because its not the same.. my two jaded cents
i guess sales will always dictate maybe a mojo 4.0 is in the works = 24fter

Mobius22
07-12-2012, 11:13 AM
After looking at the wake pics of the new Supra on Wakeworld I would consider that one in addition to the 242. Looks massive

patrick232
07-12-2012, 12:20 PM
RickT,

I will be in Nashville the evening of the 23rd what would be the chance of a quick look before flying out on the 24th?

rdlangston13
07-13-2012, 01:20 AM
If they keep the xlv they need to tweak to decrease the weight sensitivity and help it produce a cleanwake at lower speeds


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wolfeman131
07-13-2012, 07:50 AM
15346

Hmmmmmmm . . . .

And you thought all you were missing at the Sinclair Jam was some BBQ.

NCSUmoomba
07-13-2012, 08:29 AM
Now we are talking! Keep 'em coming Drew!

KSmith
07-13-2012, 08:30 AM
15346

Hmmmmmmm . . . .

And you thought all you were missing at the Sinclair Jam was some BBQ.

Sweet!!!!!!

mnpracing
07-13-2012, 08:55 AM
15346

Hmmmmmmm . . . .

And you thought all you were missing at the Sinclair Jam was some BBQ.

Very cool. Looks like more freeboard (but please increase the height on the hull, vs the top deck to achieve this), has the step at the transom. Almost there...please have a walkthrough on the production model

dusty2221
07-13-2012, 09:24 AM
more more give us more! (wouldn't hurt to sneak a Supra pic or 2 in as well!)

RickT
07-13-2012, 09:38 AM
Hmmmmmm . . .

Might have been a self-induced hallucination from the heat, food and beverages at the Sinclair Jam so don't take this as gospel, but I got a few hints:

Snappity, snap, snap - should make for some happy folks!
Jenny Craig might need to come to the rescue as she's put on 600 lbs (standard vs current optional - you do the math!)
The Beach Boys would like the back end of this lady. So would Sir Mix A Lot!

Ok..to help out alittle here - on the NEW LSV. 1. All Glass Floors with Snap out carpet. Storage areas - non carpeted 2. 1,800# ballast is standard(Combo of Tank and Bags). 3. Surf+ platform is standard.

:)... Pics? Unveiling is July 24!

Rick

sandm
07-13-2012, 09:58 AM
I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been looking at new boats, and based on what rick posted above:
1-very nice feature that has been needed for years. that will make a HUGE difference in the boat, cleanliness, ease of replacing carpet and a great selling feature.
2-that's a nice number, but go a little further: I'll talk about 2 vendors that I have looked at. mb offers 1800lbs in their 21ft boat and it makes a nice surfwake, but it needs more. there's plenty of room to add an enzo style sack under the seats/rear locker, but you have to add pumps and now you defeat the purpose of the purevert system. tige offers 2k in surf ballast. again, good but needs more. theirs is simply plug and play with an enzo sack again. easy as pie for the owner. I hope that the new lsv is deep enough under the seats that an enzo sack would plug/play. that would be a huge selling feature over the mb as 1800lbs is a lot, but it won't be enough to get the surfwave that most will be looking for(except ed :) )
3-another great selling feature that doesn't require more $$.

wolfeman131
07-13-2012, 10:18 AM
you will be able to accomplish #2 "easy as pie."

New Guy
07-13-2012, 10:43 AM
Seriously getting my curiosity going!

sandm
07-13-2012, 11:08 AM
you will be able to accomplish #2 "easy as pie."

I would think that mb and axis are in moomba's "pricepoint boat" market and that levels the field with axis and a step up on mb.

now give it a deepv hull and some deeper freeboard with a price somewhat loaded for under 52k and you now own the market again :)

volfo
07-13-2012, 02:32 PM
I am in the market soon, love these new options coming out. I like a lot about the mojo but still frankly unsure which I'd order between that and the old LSV. I can't wait to see the new one, I'm guessing it may be my boat..

And I will be another that will be comparing the MB (probably 23 widebody) to the new LSV and the Mojo, both in which boats I like best and in the total value proposition. My current nearly flawless experience with an old Outback LS means my "tie" will go to moomba!

jmvotto
07-13-2012, 02:39 PM
they need the seat on the mojo not the lsv , ( unlless of course its really DEEP)

keep the pics rolling

NCSUmoomba
07-13-2012, 03:36 PM
My $0.02...

1. Awesome, all boats should be made like this.
2. 1800# is plenty for me, we surf my Outback sometimes with no ballast, just people. Much easier to switch sides.
3. Ehhh... not a biggie, I don't surf enough to really need it.

The part that concerns me is how the prices keep creeping up. At this rate I will never be able to afford any new boat, not even a Moomba. I have 5 more years to pay on my 2001 Outback! I'll probably have 1000 hours on it by then. I seem to remember a LSV coming in under $40k a few years back (maybe I am misrembering). If Moomba wants to own the market, figure out a way to drop prices another $10k. I would think the increase in orders would offset the profit per unit reduction.

Another thing I often think about is a more utilitarian boat. Everytime I go out on my dad's Pro-Line offshore fishing boat, I marvel at the simplicity and function based design of those boats. It seems that there would be a market for this type of boat. I know that MC tried this a few years ago with the CSX boats, but I think they missed the mark as they tried to make an upscale fishing boat. For me the purpose of a boat like this is to be very basic and no frills and easy to maintain, so instead of the upscale fishing boat, it should be a downscale watersports boat. Kind of like a fishing boat with an inboard. It would have to cost less to build. Or maybe not. Maybe all of that finished fiberglass costs more than all the vinyl and carpet covering everything up? For one example, I think if somone made a 21-22 foot center console DD inboard, (or V-drive) with a t-top that you can tow from, with some ballast bags, no carpet, and minimal vinyl cushions; and offer it for like $25k, they would sell like hot cakes. There could even be a salt water version with fresh water cooling and ballast pumps that work in salt water. Or maybe they would all be built that way? I often look on Boat Trader for inboard fishing boats similar to the old Fish Nautique to make into a project boat, but they are few and far between. (I have also heard that they wake on those is crap.)

Anyway, just some ideas.

bergermaister
07-13-2012, 06:34 PM
I think if somone made a 21-22 foot center console DD inboard, (or V-drive) with a t-top that you can tow from, with some ballast bags, no carpet, and minimal vinyl cushions; and offer it for like $25k, they would sell like hot cakes.


Possibly but doubt my family would want to ride around or hang out in it. Doubt I would either. Strip out all the creature comforts and you start to lose those who are more "along for the ride".

Looking at something like that vs. a used well-equipped boat I'd go used for sure. Pretty much the 80/20 rule.

maxpower220
07-13-2012, 10:46 PM
My $0.02...

.... I think if somone made a 21-22 foot center console DD inboard, (or V-drive) with a t-top that you can tow from, with some ballast bags, no carpet, and minimal vinyl cushions; and offer it for like $25k, they would sell like hot cakes.
Anyway, just some ideas.


I don't think anyone makes a 21 foot boat for $25K sticker. New boats of any make of style that are in the 21' area seem to be more than that. Pontoon boats maybe.

tnbrooks01
07-13-2012, 11:02 PM
I seem to remember a LSV coming in under $40k a few years back (maybe I am misrembering). If Moomba wants to own the market, figure out a way to drop prices another $10k. I would think the increase in orders would offset the profit per unit reduction.

For one example, I think if somone made a 21-22 foot center console DD inboard, (or V-drive) with a t-top that you can tow from, with some ballast bags, no carpet, and minimal vinyl cushions; and offer it for like $25k, they would sell like hot cake

I agree that mfgrs need to be creative in running their business to keep cost down without cutting corners on their products. They still need to produce a product that the consumers want. I believe they are moving in a direction that the consumers have already shown they want to go.

Different strokes for different folks. In my opinion the majority of the towboat market is more about the status/lifestyle rather than the fact its a purpose built boat. It amazes me how many BU247s, 230s, and x-55s are on our lake that have never pulled anyone behind them. They just have them because they and they looks cool!

If it gets to where I can't afford my wakeboat I'll have to move to a "fakeboard" boat with a I/O, tower, racks etc. and we will have to manage.





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wolfeman131
07-16-2012, 07:23 AM
Happy Monday!

Going to be a long week for some of you . . .

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/wolfeman131/IMG_0049.jpg

E4NASH
07-16-2012, 08:37 AM
Hmmm maybe I should've been more patient and waited til next year like we had planned...looking good so far!


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wolfeman131
07-16-2012, 08:51 AM
You can always work a trade at the boat show.

moombadaze
07-16-2012, 09:20 AM
Happy Monday!

Going to be a long week for some of you . . .

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/wolfeman131/IMG_0049.jpg

After being in the Mighty Mojo for the week I really like this gauge cluster--so easy to see and read at a glance

New Guy
07-16-2012, 09:30 AM
Looking awesome! I can't wait to see the finished boat.

wolfeman131
07-16-2012, 09:44 AM
After being in the Mighty Mojo for the week I really like this gauge cluster--so easy to see and read at a glance

I know I already have you on the hook for a new LSV. You can put in for your vacation time now: Jan 10-13, 2013.

http://www.atlantaboatshow.com/

I know a guy that can work ya a deal!

moombadaze
07-16-2012, 09:53 AM
I know I already have you on the hook for a new LSV. You can put in for your vacation time now: Jan 10-13, 2013.

http://www.atlantaboatshow.com/

I know a guy that can work ya a deal!

Yes you do have me on the hook but its not me you have to work the deal for, it's her, and she says this one is paid for, so best of luck to ya, altho the vapor locking could work in your favor

wolfeman131
07-16-2012, 10:06 AM
she is an easy sell.

trust me.

moombadaze
07-16-2012, 10:07 AM
we will see

moombadaze
07-16-2012, 10:48 AM
Any ideas on the boat weight and height with tower folded--its gotta fit in the garage and that would be on the double axle trailer

wolfeman131
07-16-2012, 10:51 AM
Daze, you gotta wait a few more days . . .

It ain't sitting in my driveway.

Or, is it?!?!?!?

moombadaze
07-16-2012, 11:02 AM
It should have been at Sinclair this week for some beta testing-we could easily have put 75 hrs on it and had some feedback

sandm
07-16-2012, 04:52 PM
those gauges look to be very easy to read from the pics and the styling is very automotive-stewart warner.. only feedback, is that the pp in the center of the console? if so, upgrading could be a pita-looks very proprietary..

wolfeman131
07-16-2012, 05:04 PM
its the standard Digital Cruise Pro. Upgrading to the GPS version will use the same display, so NO WORRIES!

BTW - this is the same size/shape that was in my '08 OBV that came with the standard cruise that I easily upgraded to PP.

sandm
07-16-2012, 05:30 PM
ya, just thinkin a few years down the road when pp introduces the next best thing after stargazer..

very nice guages tho. easy to read and everything right there... I like that.. it's much cleaner than my '06 supra with multiple gauges spread across a lot of dash real estate..

New Guy
07-17-2012, 08:27 AM
Ok where is our Tuesday pictures.

mnpracing
07-17-2012, 08:59 AM
those gauges look to be very easy to read from the pics and the styling is very automotive-stewart warner.. only feedback, is that the pp in the center of the console? if so, upgrading could be a pita-looks very proprietary..

FWIW, the PP on my '08 looks very similar, and in the same position.

wolfeman131
07-17-2012, 09:50 AM
Ok where is our Tuesday pictures.

Snappity, snap, snap.

And a few other clues . . .

If you look closely!

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/wolfeman131/807a74b2.jpg

moombadaze
07-17-2012, 10:01 AM
do I spy a pedistal seat base there ? like the Mighty Mojo has

sandm
07-17-2012, 10:19 AM
finish on the floor looks nice..

New Guy
07-17-2012, 12:23 PM
I can't wait to see it!

NCSUmoomba
07-17-2012, 12:59 PM
The cruise comments made me think of something. Why is the control for the cruise so far from where my hand rests while driving? I think it would be nice to have the cruise button (and maybe display too) above the throttle onthe right side of the dash.

wolfeman131
07-17-2012, 02:30 PM
It has a digital readout for your set speed and actual speed ad well as water temp, etc. It would be kinda hard to read over by the throttle.

Mobius22
07-17-2012, 03:06 PM
It has a digital readout for your set speed and actual speed ad well as water temp, etc. It would be kinda hard to read over by the throttle.

Yeah and the ballast percentages are also on it and I would definitely not want to have to lean over to see those over by the throttle

moombadaze
07-17-2012, 04:35 PM
I sure hope the ballast switch are relocated to the same place as the Mojo's. Something I really liked after being in Drew's boat for the week

bzubke1
07-17-2012, 04:49 PM
I sure hope the ballast switch are relocated to the same place as the Mojo's. Something I really liked after being in Drew's boat for the week

+100000. Having them up higher is so much nicer on the 21v, I don't have to put my head between my legs to make ballast adjustments.

New Guy
07-18-2012, 09:45 AM
Hey Drew its Wednesday!

We're waiting, LOL!

rdlangston13
07-18-2012, 10:57 AM
And the 21V has the sweet toggle switches too.


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ryan_8099
07-18-2012, 11:27 AM
Hey Drew its Wednesday!
We're waiting, LOL!
Agreed, you are late. I think we deserve at least 2 new pics today!

wolfeman131
07-18-2012, 11:43 AM
Agreed, you are late. I think we deserve at least 2 new pics today!

I'm on West Coast time this week! It's still early.


Enjoy . . . .

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/wolfeman131/IMG_0615.jpg

bergermaister
07-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Hmmmmm - MOJO LSV???

Drew - whereabouts are ya -anywhere near WA or OR?

moombadaze
07-18-2012, 11:49 AM
Mojofied lsv

wolfeman131
07-18-2012, 11:50 AM
I wish! We'd be out on the H2O, bro!

Down in LA.

RickT
07-18-2012, 11:53 AM
Nope....it is still named the Mobius LSV. :)

02Outback
07-18-2012, 11:56 AM
That back graphic should said Mobious LSV I'm assuming.

I have a feeling this boat is going to be really nice.


Just a side question, but do any boats out there offer HUD (Heads Up Display) light the Corvettes? If any did I'm assuming would be a Mastercraft or SANTE.

bergermaister
07-18-2012, 11:56 AM
You know Rick, we have two moderators out here in the NW (same city) and we'd be MORE than happy to put the new boat through it's paces, take lots of pictures/video, complete writeups, comparisons. Lots of viral advertising. :cool:

02Outback
07-18-2012, 11:58 AM
Nope....it is still named the Mobius LSV. :)

Rick beat me to it.

02Outback
07-18-2012, 12:00 PM
Rick, I think a great place to Test/Demo this boat would be the Moomba / Supra Texas Jam down here in Texas on August 10-12.

Secluded place somewhat and a great deal of Moomba / Supra owners.

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?18146-2012-Texas-Moomba-Supra-Jam

RickT
07-18-2012, 12:13 PM
02,

Our dallas dealer has one on order asap. it will be close on delivery times!

02Outback
07-18-2012, 12:42 PM
02,

Our dallas dealer has one on order asap. it will be close on delivery times!

I may have to get on the horn with them and see if they are willing to make the journey.

Thanks Rick.

Cody

New Guy
07-18-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas! From what I have seen so far it looks like it would be a perfect fit for what I want. 21-22 foot boat, deep freeboard, and sexy.

moombadaze
07-18-2012, 01:00 PM
From what I have seen so far it looks like it would be a perfect fit for what I want. 21-22 foot boat, deep freeboard, and sexy.

Then it will be a perfect fit for what you want

Mobius22
07-18-2012, 01:08 PM
I'm on West Coast time this week! It's still early.


Enjoy . . . .

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/wolfeman131/IMG_0615.jpg

I'm really liking the gelcoat scheme in this pic for some reason.

wolfeman131
07-18-2012, 01:10 PM
Get your order form ready!

moombadaze
07-18-2012, 01:52 PM
I'm really liking the gelcoat scheme in this pic for some reason.

That green sure does "POP" does'nt it.

KG's Supra24
07-18-2012, 02:06 PM
Chrome dash pieces ... Stainless rubrail ... a little surprised by the plastic thru-hulls

I wish the time would come already! Any reason these same type of reveals aren't happening on the Supra side?

rdlangston13
07-18-2012, 03:45 PM
Or Möbius LSV.


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rdlangston13
07-18-2012, 03:48 PM
Ooops, didn't flip to the next page!


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bzubke1
07-18-2012, 03:55 PM
I may have to get on the horn with them and see if they are willing to make the journey.

Thanks Rick.

Cody

If they're willing to lend a demo I'll be more than happy to pull it down. My brother used to work there and still has a good relationship with the guys there so they would know it is in good hands.

wolfeman131
07-18-2012, 04:24 PM
Any reason these same type of reveals aren't happening on the Supra side?

I don't own one. :)


Yet.

WaterBullDawg1980
07-18-2012, 04:39 PM
You guys are killing me. Rick-What is the ETA for the first placed orders?? I am asking for ....a friend. :)

I really really really really really NEED to know. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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WaterBullDawg1980
07-18-2012, 04:40 PM
I am pathetic. I haven't even seen the boat yet and know nothing about it and I am asking about ETAs on first orders. Mods please delete my post. I am jumping the gun here!

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02Outback
07-18-2012, 04:57 PM
If they're willing to lend a demo I'll be more than happy to pull it down. My brother used to work there and still has a good relationship with the guys there so they would know it is in good hands.

Why don't you give your brother a call and see if he can pull some strings?

If need be, give them my number and I can give them a pitch for the event.

It could be the official 'Pace Boat' for Moomba / Supra Texas Jam! (I could use a nice boat to take me around while I am snapping pictures of the event).

Cody

rdlangston13
07-18-2012, 06:28 PM
Rinkers doesn't have one on order???


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Boonejeepin
07-18-2012, 07:58 PM
Posted something here by accident and removed it.

Sorry!

New Guy
07-19-2012, 08:57 AM
Drew we are waiting LOL!

wolfeman131
07-19-2012, 11:07 AM
Drew we are waiting LOL!

maybe some $$ sent my way would help.

you all have seen enough . . . . .

for now.



MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

New Guy
07-19-2012, 11:27 AM
Ok I offer one Dusty's mom for 2 hours.

moombadaze
07-19-2012, 11:31 AM
ok, "now" is over, your making them suffer to much.

I knew I should have forwarded that picture to my email when your back was turned.

or did I....

WaterBullDawg1980
07-19-2012, 06:21 PM
You guys are killing me. Rick-What is the ETA for the first placed orders?? I am asking for ....a friend. :)

I really really really really really NEED to know. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Any guesses who did this edit??? :mad:

Because I don't like anybody messing with my stuff! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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New Guy
07-20-2012, 09:25 AM
Drew come on it has been two days we are having withdrawals.

wolfeman131
07-20-2012, 10:09 AM
sorry, man.

gave ya all that I can.

for now.

kaneboats
07-20-2012, 12:42 PM
Any guesses who did this edit??? :mad:

Because I don't like anybody messing with my stuff! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Little birdie told me you should look for a guy that owns a Moomba.

New Guy
07-23-2012, 05:24 PM
Ok one day to go, how about a quick teaser.

jester
07-23-2012, 05:30 PM
How about not a quick teaser but the whole thing? A quick teaser is like the GF bring you out a good beer and putting it on the table behind you then when you go to take a drink you find out it is empty. Now you want the beer but no beer in site.

wolfeman131
07-23-2012, 11:10 PM
OK, I'm uploading a ton of pics now and will post them tomorrow morning on the plane ride from Atlanta to Denver IF the flight has wi-fi.

jester
07-24-2012, 12:59 AM
Drew or you could just post them now so you do not have to worry about the plane having Wi-Fi :cool:

ULMboarder
07-24-2012, 10:24 AM
We are waiting Mr. Wolfe..... im ready to see my next boat. :p

wolfeman131
07-24-2012, 10:27 AM
Already posted. Gotta go find it!

jpetty3023
07-24-2012, 10:28 AM
Wolfey started a new thread about it

moombadaze
07-24-2012, 10:46 AM
.. im ready to see my next boat. :p

That line starts behind me:cool: