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Atlanta1213
09-04-2012, 09:51 AM
Our daughter, who had her 4th birthday in July, has been learning to wakesurf this summer. Yesterday she went a short distance without the rope until she leaned herself out of the pocket. This was on Lake Ocoee in East Tennessee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ITZUvYssHo

dusty2221
09-04-2012, 09:57 AM
That was fantastic!

KG's Supra24
09-04-2012, 10:01 AM
Wow, awesome!

beat taco
09-04-2012, 10:07 AM
Very cool!

rca
09-04-2012, 10:07 AM
That was very cool, she did great.

Canuckle Head
09-04-2012, 10:49 AM
Ellie Appleby you rock! Congratulations and keep it up!

kaneboats
09-04-2012, 11:40 AM
Yay, Ellie! Way to shred!!!!

wolfeman131
09-04-2012, 12:21 PM
That is great! Been trying to convince my son all summer that he could do it.

How did she start on the board?

Salyers
09-04-2012, 12:27 PM
That's very cool! Is Ocoee your home lake? We are out there from time to time. If you see a Red Mojo surfing stop and say hi!

Atlanta1213
09-04-2012, 12:47 PM
wolfeman131:
Initially we had tried with both her and our 6 year old the same way that we surf. Board sideways - heels on top and then flip it up on its side when the rope is taught but the board was way too much for them to handle. So instead we had them lay on it like a kneeboard, then crawl to their knees staying way towards the back. Finally had them put the handle down on the board and bring up one foot and then the other. We also found in the beginning that having them stay crouched like a baseball catcher worked well so they could keep their balance more easily.

Salyers:
Ocoee is definitely our home lake even though we live in Chattanooga. I learned to ski in Sylco Inlet when I was 10 and have been in love with that place ever since. We have a black and white LSV we bought from Marine Distributors in Charleston TN, last summer and have put 180 hours on it, 95% of which has been on the Ocoee. We usually hang around the inlet and the Hwy 64 boat ramp end of the lake, we will keep an eye out for you.

kaneboats
09-04-2012, 01:14 PM
So instead we had them lay on it like a kneeboard, then crawl to their knees staying way towards the back. Finally had them put the handle down on the board and bring up one foot and then the other. We also found in the beginning that having them stay crouched like a baseball catcher worked well so they could keep their balance more easily.

I sure hope you can get some video of the process and post it up. It would help a lot of us to show the kids a 4 year old getting up like that.

Atlanta1213
09-04-2012, 07:41 PM
I sure hope you can get some video of the process and post it up. It would help a lot of us to show the kids a 4 year old getting up like that.

Here you go, as much great information as I have gleaned from this site its the least I can do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omDvRiVqkjs

I will say that when we first started all this we really didn't expect the 4 year old to pick this up before the 6 year old who can already ski. They both also have quite a bit of time behind the boat on a kneeboard dating back to when Ellie was two, which helped as well. Early on I would go as slow as No Wake throttle even while they were standing up. Now I go No Wake until they are on their knees, 3-5 MPH until they got outside the wake and begin standing and then 10 MPH. Initially I used the same ballast we use and found out the wave was way to steep. Every time they would slide into the pocket they would back it up the wave and then bury the nose when they came back down. At 35 lbs. she doesn't need much of a wave to get rope slack. You may notice in the video that she reaches out for the wave with her left hand, this is something my wife has them do to get closer to the pocket. I think the biggest challenge for her now is going to be making those adjustments with the weight on her front and back foot in order to stay in the pocket for any length of time.

Boonejeepin
09-04-2012, 07:50 PM
That is awesome!!!!

jpetty3023
09-04-2012, 09:09 PM
Very nice. My girls have a homework assignment now. My 8 year old is close an maybe your video will get her the rest of the way


Sent from my home phone..

kaneboats
09-05-2012, 10:00 AM
Thanks! You gotta be so proud of li'l Ellie. She looks like she has great balance and is having fun. Watch out for this one. She's gonna get real good with this head start.

Brianinpdx
09-05-2012, 12:53 PM
This is absolutely awesome!~ I've got twin 4 year olds.

I was out with Al last weekend and took one of my boys. He kept aking me... Daddy, I want to surf! I think this might have just given me the inspiration to get him going. I'll have him watch this video tonight.

Thanks chief!

-Brian

Stazi
09-06-2012, 09:11 AM
My 5 yo old son is scared shitless of riding the tube....I wish I could get him to do something like this. I have had him surf with me but he won't do anything on his own. LOL

wolfeman131
09-06-2012, 09:22 AM
We were invited by the fine folks at Allatoona Adventures to go out for a surf 2 weekends ago and my son LOVED riding this contraption - The Wakesledz. He also LOVED riding the wooden ski trainer kaneboats brought to Sinclair. The middle section had been filled on so it was easy for him to get standing.

http://wakesledz.com/

Atlanta1213
09-06-2012, 10:31 AM
I have six kids in all and the oldest three all learned to ski at 5 or 6. My 28 year old son was barefooting at 7. This time around with my youngest three (2, 4 and 6) I applied a lot of the things I learned from the first three. For example I stopped taking a tube with us to the lake. I noticed the kids were content to ride around in it forever it seemed like. It was helpful just to get them out of the boat and behind it but after that milestone was reached I stopped taking it with us to the lake. I also didn't let them attach the rope to the kneeboard but made them hold it instead. Rope management is really important no matter what you are trying to get up on. The sooner they learn how to handle the rope the better. Speed is meaningless when they are that small too, because of their light weight you can pull them at much slower speeds than adults need to get up and stay on top of the water. So much of what stands in their way is mental not physical, their smaller stature creates a much lower center of gravity and therefore better balance. Ever try to teach a real tall adult how to ski? Not very easy in my experience. There is no substitute for time behind the boat (tubes not included), sometimes I felt like they weren't progressing but everyone hits hurdles in their development and you just have to be patient and wait for them to get past it. Finally there is nothing like peer pressure from siblings or friends to motivate them to do things I could never talk them into (my 26 year old learned to ski on one at 5 which totally pi$$ed of his 6 year old brother who had until that day been relucant to drop a ski, but learned about 30 minutes after his younger brother). We also rely on a barefoot boom as a greating training tool for wakeboards and skis, it is a pain to setup and breakdown but is worth it. Every child is a little different but almost all of them are motivated by their own success to try new things.

kaneboats
09-06-2012, 02:16 PM
I love showing them video of kids a couple years younger than they are doing stuff I want them to try next. Every kid knows if a kid a year younger than them can do it so can they.

beat taco
09-07-2012, 10:31 AM
I love showing them video of kids a couple years younger than they are doing stuff I want them to try next. Every kid knows if a kid a year younger than them can do it so can they.

X2, works every time! The day my 4 y/o got up on the wakeboard by buddy's 8 y/o got up too, he had tried once the year before but had been unwilling this year until he saw that!


-Jake