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saskie99
09-04-2012, 01:47 PM
This spring I put in 3 reversible pumps and bow ballast, this has been the greatest mod that I have done ever. I have two little kids that limit boat time so the fast pumps make such a difference. Not to mention I have always had to replace at least one aerotor style pump each summer. It was a fair bit of work to put in but totally worth it!

kaneboats
09-04-2012, 02:15 PM
Congrats! You have might short summers so I don't blame you a bit for being jealous of every second.

saskie99
09-04-2012, 02:40 PM
The boat is not away yet but I just loved how easy they worked, I had not issues with them at all. The install was so much cleaner than before. I have put a new prop on, which made a big difference, upgraded the ballast and stereo which I love. But our lake is pretty green and weedy in the summer so even the fact that these pumps dont plug up while parked at the dock filling was awesome.

New Guy
09-08-2012, 12:31 PM
I'm really thinking of switching out my aerator style for reversible I am just sick of sacks not draining, filling in consistently ect.

OH and PP was probably your best mod unless your boat came with it.

Ian Brantford
09-09-2012, 11:53 PM
Do you have pictures of where you installed the new through-hull fittings?

mmandley
09-10-2012, 12:04 PM
Ian, if you go reversable the best location for threw hulls in on the bottom of the boat. The best location to mount these will be Aft of the Speedo pick up as you will want shut off valves.

The only downside to Reversable pumps is you have to pay attention to filling and draining a lot more. Even with vents on the bags when they are full you have to shut them off. A couple times we wernt paying attention and it poped the hose off on our vent and gushed water. Also when draining you cant let these pumps run dry for more then a minute without risking damaging the impellers. We had that hapen the 3rd time out when a switch got bumped on.

beat taco
09-10-2012, 12:27 PM
I want to put a red light somewhere around my instruments to indicate when I have a pump on!! This winter..


-Jake

saskie99
09-10-2012, 12:29 PM
as far as the burning out the impellers I have not had any issues, you can hear the sound the moment the bags are empty. As far as filling i have over filled but never popped a hose off. I didnt take any pictures of the thru hulls. I followed someone elses mod off the the forum. I mount exactly where he did. They are on the side where the the existing thru hull is. I believe one in front and one in the back.
this is what i followed!
http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?16370-08-LSV-GIII-upgrade-to-Johnson-Pumps&highlight=reversible+pump

mmandley
09-10-2012, 12:30 PM
I want to put a red light somewhere around my instruments to indicate when I have a pump on!! This winter..


-Jake

Should be easy, 3 LEDS on the back of those switches is a top pole or blade if you will, its hot only when the switch is in the ON position and it lights the switch lights to tell you the switch is on. Should eb able to jump off that and ground on the same switch ground.

saskie99
09-10-2012, 12:34 PM
i would suggest that you carry extra fuses as I have had to replace all three this year for some reason. Not sure why but over the summer they all cooked once.

mmandley
09-10-2012, 12:46 PM
i would suggest that you carry extra fuses as I have had to replace all three this year for some reason. Not sure why but over the summer they all cooked once.

Saskie99 thats a great thread to follow, on my boat I had more room for my threw hulls on the opposite side but thats the same really LOL.

What size fuses are you running? I have 25s in mine and jhavnt had any issues really. I did pop it once but that was when i burned an impeller up.

yes you can hear the pump if the stereo is turned down low but, well, we only know 2 volumes, off and loud LOL

ga-lsv05
09-10-2012, 12:47 PM
Wake makers suggested I not run reversible pumps as they don't pump as fast as aerator

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mmandley
09-10-2012, 12:50 PM
Wake makers suggested I not run reversible pumps as they don't pump as fast as aerator

2005 mobius lsv 2900lbs ballast

WHAT? thats crazy, maybe if you run 1100 aerators to each bag with 3 inlets.
When i was running the factory setup it was 30 minutes to fill my 1100s and now its 10 minutes.
I would talk with Spencer on that again, but when we redid my boat hes the one who said i need to switch to reversables. Now im running the new Ultra Jabsco pumps. Not sure how they measure to the older style but i thought they looked the same lol.

saskie99
09-10-2012, 12:53 PM
i am about 6-7 min from empty to almost 3000lbs in the boat. I would rather that than be 3-4 min and have to deal with the aerotor pumps and mounting below the water line and the anti syphon valves. Also when I am filling I am sometimes in pretty weedy water, not prob for the reversible pumps. also you do not need to have drain pumps as well. it is more simple. I really have a box of parts sitting in my garage with 6 pumps, sprinker valves, strainer, hose, wire, sprinkler tree.

saskie99
09-10-2012, 12:54 PM
I have 20amps fuses, I guess I will put in 25amps!

saskie99
09-10-2012, 12:56 PM
not to mention I have had to replace 2 aerator pumps each season

bergermaister
09-10-2012, 01:00 PM
not to mention I have had to replace 2 aerator pumps each season

Wow - that would push me to want to change.

I am still running the original Rule 1100 to fill my basement that came with the boat when I bought it 6 yrs ago. Which could be the original pump that came with the boat 11 yrs ago... What aerators were you running?

ga-lsv05
09-10-2012, 01:01 PM
Strange because I called wanting to decrease my fill time he said the rule 1200 on my boat is as fast as I could get. Maybe he meant with only one inlet?

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mmandley
09-10-2012, 01:33 PM
Might be just that.

If your running a deddicated Jabsco to your bag vs the Rule the jabsco will win every time.

Your valve tree for multiple bags is also goign to slow the system down a lot.

ga-lsv05
09-10-2012, 01:42 PM
Right. Well I don't want to dive off into a full blown ballast upgrade as my boat is for sale and my new boat may or may not have quick fill tanks.

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mmandley
09-10-2012, 01:44 PM
I always do my upgrades Feb March, this way i have the winter to plan them, plus by Feb im itching pretty bad to get out and this stalls me till March when the lakes open up. Then its only our Spring rains that are slowing me down

saskie99
09-10-2012, 01:56 PM
i went with 1 inch hose all around, that with the new pumps made a huge difference. I was running small tsunami pumps for draining, the rule was still running.

ga-lsv05
09-10-2012, 01:59 PM
I swear the last weekend I saw guys on an old mastercraft dumping buckets of water in the boat before wakeboarding. I think this would be the least problematic and cheapest way to fill ballast :thumbup:

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saskie99
09-10-2012, 02:02 PM
hahahahaah hopefully they dont have the mastercarft with the wooden stringers!

beat taco
09-10-2012, 02:08 PM
Maybe it's a MC thing? A local on the river I use put 1200#'s of lead in his pro star and pulls his center plug until the carpets floating lol.


-Jake

patrick232
09-11-2012, 12:54 PM
mastercraft owners more monry than brains maybe? Just kidding I dream of an X-25 off and on.

beat taco
09-11-2012, 01:59 PM
mastercraft owners more monry than brains maybe? Just kidding I dream of an X-25 off and on.

These guys have neither but they are great entertainment as the go huge and are always working on new tricks. I am partial to MC boats!


-Jake

ga-lsv05
09-11-2012, 02:07 PM
X80 or nothing lol

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