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sandm
10-23-2012, 12:11 PM
first off, I realize that some of this is not relavent to boats on here, but if you're like me, you can appreciate any motorized machine getting upgraded :)
so here we go...


adding more pumps, larger bag to regular side and a complete audio makeover. started with the ballast first. pulling the floor up took almost 2 days(working a few hours here and there) to completely strip the inside. all that remains are the 2 side cushions and the seatbacks. I'm convinced some of the guys building these boats are contortionists....

got the floor up and started working. boat came stock with 4 rule fill pumps-1 to each rear bag and 2 for the front ibs and same setup draining the system. replaced the regular rear pump with a tsunami and tee'ed off the goofy intake with another tsunami to the regular side. this gives me 2 fill using 1" hoses to the bag and 2 drains using 3/4". hard tank is still filled first off a 3/4 line from the regular rear tsunami then begins filling the bag. the end goal was dual lines all 1" to the bag. came out pretty good and tried to keep the look of the wiring factory.. drilling the hole in the hull this weekend for the additional drain and need to add the relays under the dash for the touchscreen to activate the system. trying not to add any switches-keep it as factory feeling as possible.
thanks to MLA on here for the parts so far.. stereo starts next week when ballast is done..

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/sandm01/IMAG0075.jpg

mnpracing
10-23-2012, 12:20 PM
awesome Sandm, I'll be watching this very closely and taking copious notes for my upgrades (gotta wait for the boat first :)). Just to make sure I'm following were the stock pumps Johnson's, and then you replaced them with Rule 1100's, or is the pic not accurate?

sandm
10-23-2012, 12:26 PM
I was under the impression that johnson/rule were one in the same. they are the factory pumps. I did have to move one of the front pumps around.
the original orientation was regular rear was in the back where the tsunami is, the tee'ed thru hull was one of the front pumps, the one closest to the gas tank is the other front and remained there. the other one that is running to the front on the drivers side was originally the goofy rear pump. I had to swap front/goofy with each other to get it all to fit.
installing additional drain pump tomorrow. I'll snap a pic of the location of that one. had a hard time finding a location. it's real tight working in the back. I'm envious of the mojo lockers. they are massive and would be easy to work in ..

mmandley
10-23-2012, 01:04 PM
I was under the impression that johnson/rule were one in the same. they are the factory pumps. I did have to move one of the front pumps around.
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Rule pumps are airators as i understand and can be used to only as a fill or drain pump.
Johnson / Jabsco are impeller pumps that fill drain as one pump.

mnpracing
10-23-2012, 01:07 PM
This is what I was referring to. Johnson makes aerator pumps in addition to impellar-driven pumps.

http://www.johnson-pump.com/jpmarine/products/bilge/Aeratorpumps.html

mmandley
10-23-2012, 01:25 PM
very cool, learn something all the time

sandm
10-23-2012, 01:44 PM
they are johnson 1000gph pumps.

had to go look :)

MLA
10-23-2012, 01:59 PM
Those red pumps are the OEM pumps and are the original design of Mayfair. Mayfair was absorbed my Johnson Controls a few years back and they have maintained the same Mayfair bilge and live-well pumps that now carry the Johnson name. On a side note, Rule and Jabsco are under the same parent company called Xylem Flow Control.

sandm
10-28-2012, 03:42 PM
got a chance to work again today.

bag is all plumbed in. 2 tsunami pumps with 1" hoses should fill quickly. I swapped the fill/vent on the outside top of the bag per mike's advice as I had a little leakage out the vent when full..
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/sandm01/SDC11570.jpg

location for the second pump. might need to replace it with a higher flow as it's pumping to the other side of the boat and has an uphill jaunt to get there.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/sandm01/SDC11571.jpg


and now for the hard part...
drilling the new thru hull. went pretty good. I think..

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/sandm01/SDC11564.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/sandm01/SDC11567.jpg

sandm
10-28-2012, 03:42 PM
finished results.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/sandm01/SDC11568.jpg

rdlangston13
10-29-2012, 02:10 AM
Some of these boats I've seen have like 10+ thru hulls on the side. What the heck are all these for????


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bergermaister
10-29-2012, 02:16 AM
Spike nails
Oil slick
Machine guns
Turbo boost
Grappling hook

mmandley
10-29-2012, 08:14 AM
Looking good friend

wolfeman131
10-29-2012, 10:54 AM
Some of these boats I've seen have like 10+ thru hulls on the side. What the heck are all these for????


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On a boat that uses aerator pumps, you can get to 9 easy. You have a empty line and vent line which equals 2 thru hulls for IBS, center, and both rear lockers. That equals 8 and the bilge pump is 9. Throw in a few more sacs under the seats and/or a second bilge pump and you're 10+.


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bergermaister
10-29-2012, 11:08 AM
Yeah, I didn't want the gun boat look, nor did I want to spend the extra $ per thru hull, so I combined the empty and vent lines for each bag with a one-way on the vent line right before they meet.

sandm
10-29-2012, 11:16 AM
thought about doing that with the extra line that I added, but decided the boat already had 8, so what's one more and in ordering iirc, the cost for an extra thru-hull vs a check valve was almost the same.

bergermaister
10-29-2012, 11:57 AM
Drains in 30 seconds flat

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k414/grberglund/MoombaMobiusV/Serious-Ballast.jpg

sandm
10-29-2012, 03:19 PM
I bet if you turn all those on at once, the driver has to manage some serious countersteer :)

sandm
10-29-2012, 09:53 PM
final hookup of the ballast system. black wrapped bundle above the black circuit breakers are the relays for the ballast. I never asked about what happens if the touchscreen breaks on the lake when I bought the boat, but learned later. it seems that the supra has a similar setup, but the switches are in the dash for redundancy instead of hidden. I like that feature of the supra putting them in the dash better than hidden. gives you 2 choices to activate something at your fingertips if your screen is not displaying the needed menu option.
there's redundant switches for everything, and if you notice the fuseblock, there's 2 rows. one row that has fuses in it works, but if you pull the fuse out and put it in the corresponding block next to it, it turns that function on as long as the power is energized and bypasses the switch for that device.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/sandm01/SDC11572.jpg

jmvotto
10-30-2012, 01:04 PM
Drains in 30 seconds flat

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k414/grberglund/MoombaMobiusV/Serious-Ballast.jpg


Nice, i thought your thru hulls were on the stern...... :eek:

I wye'd my vents with the drain thru hulls on the ole OBV to help the suction fuction, so i had six drains in total including two on the IBS. all per the ballast guru Mike the Manley:)

bergermaister
10-30-2012, 01:45 PM
They were out the back - just capped them off when I put everything out the sides. Haven't gotten around to glassing them in or at least finding white plugs so they blend in.

Besides drilling more holes in the boat, in my case running 1" hose up under the gunwale (each crossing side to side) was tight so going with a single line for vent+drain was much easier to shoehorn in.