PDA

View Full Version : Daze's 2013 mod thread



moombadaze
11-01-2012, 08:36 PM
knowing that im going to be running the 1100lb bag I first got started with a little reinforceing


added a brace along the bottom so the screws for the hinges are not being stressed
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12002.jpg

laying out the aluminum angle bars
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12003.jpg

adding bolts and then its time to install
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12004.jpg

board is inplace
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12005.jpg

moombadaze
11-01-2012, 08:43 PM
the models with the reversable pumps have all the pumps in the port rear lock and they protrude into the area about a foot--that' valuable space for ballast bag. time to move the pumps

just a shot of the pumps
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12008.jpg

my relocation is the the forward inside portion of the motor walls that dont hinge down
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12010.jpg

pumps removed from the factory boardhttp://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12011.jpg
this board is completed gone now-its sitting on a bench, I'll have to get some carpet to finish the back of storage are to match the side

2 pumps on one wall, 1 pump and the control board on the other
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12014.jpg

had to lengthen a couple wires and reroute a harness but not to bad so far.

moombadaze
11-01-2012, 08:47 PM
just a little blood, babes boat bright seat cleaner cleans it right up
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12013.jpg

inside shot of the reinforce motor wall and you can see one of the pumps mounted
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-30-12015.jpg

gaining access to piggyback the IBS to the front ballast
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/11-1-12001-1.jpg

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/11-1-12002-1.jpg

Got to give a HUGE thanks to Drew for convincing me to pickyback the IBS and not install a 4th pump like I originally had planned.

moombadaze
11-01-2012, 08:56 PM
at this time I went ahead and mounted Exile ZLD since everthing was open
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/11-1-12005.jpg

running the power wires for the ZLD under the floor. with the floor open it really make access nice
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/11-1-12004.jpg

at this point I also ran all the rca cable up around the bow, there are these little tabs on the under side of the seat bases just for this purpose--how cool is that.

since I finally got a boat with the stainless rub rail I also installed chrome vent thruhulls

here is a pic of the black plastic but stil have to get a shot of the chrome one's. I also added one way valves to all 3 vents at the same time. After beinging in Drew's mojo and seeing the difference they make in getting the bags to empty completely it should be a mod of the highest priority-super simple too
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/10-21-2013021.jpg

mmandley
11-01-2012, 09:06 PM
Looking real sharp buddy, real sharp. I really like the changes they did in the boat to make the access easier.

wolfeman131
11-01-2012, 09:11 PM
Lots of empty cup holders . . .

Just sayin'


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

moombadaze
11-01-2012, 09:14 PM
I really like the changes they did in the boat to make the access easier.

me too, lots of improvents also in the cut outs for the dash, cleaner work-stuff is just not nearly as rough as it was when compared to the 08. very impresed so far.

btw-got the wire today-thanks for the quick answers as always. it may be awhile befor I really get going on the stereo as I hope to get out this sunday and then we have family in town the next weekend and then turkey day and then Christmas and then new years.

moombadaze
11-01-2012, 09:16 PM
Lots of empty cup holders . . .



no fears, you should see the swim platform-its full.

KG's Supra24
11-01-2012, 10:27 PM
The fiberglass foot panel below the steering wheel is removable? Is that new for 2013?

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

moombadaze
11-02-2012, 07:29 AM
The fiberglass foot panel below the steering wheel is removable? Is that new for 2013?

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

Yep, new design for the 13's.

the carpeted board on top comes out 1st-3 long ass screws hold it in place. Remove cup holder next, The fiberglass panel is held down with 2 screws, then you have to loosen the black rubber trim on both sides and slide the panel backwards a little and then lift it out. pretty simple really.

If i was not a chicken I'd notch the top portion of that fiberglass panel and set my sub box into so its up high and stealthy. but just no way Im going to try.

alw041
11-02-2012, 07:33 AM
Looking good so far Daze.

jmvotto
11-02-2012, 08:15 AM
Daze. Looks good . You using Ian's sub placement on his buddies Lsv looks like the wires are still dead center behind the hump


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04OUTBACK
11-02-2012, 09:40 AM
I would be a wreck tearing apart a new ride.
It'll be awesome when you're through though!

Keep it coming

sandm
11-02-2012, 10:25 AM
it sure is fun buying a brand new boat and hacking it up :)

looks good...

moombadaze
11-02-2012, 12:38 PM
Daze. Looks good . You using Ian's sub placement on his buddies Lsv looks like the wires are still dead center behind the hump


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

not 100% sure on sub placement yet

moombadaze
11-02-2012, 12:40 PM
I would be a wreck tearing apart a new ride.
It'll be awesome when you're through though!

Keep it coming

thanks, I sure hope so when its all done.

stereo up next, hope to get that started later this year, but it may be sometime in Jan

moombadaze
11-02-2012, 12:41 PM
it sure is fun buying a brand new boat and hacking it up :)

looks good...

hacking or personalizeing---its all in the verbage :cool:

jstenger
11-02-2012, 10:42 PM
Did you ever think about removing the hinges all together on the engine access side panels? You could add another brace on the opposite side of the one you already installed. It would act as a sandwhich for the bottom of the panel. Then the panel would be easily removable instead of just folding down. Not sure how the LSV is, but on my OBV, the panels hit the sides when they are lowered, and do not lay flat.

moombadaze
11-03-2012, 07:38 AM
Joe, I did think about that and may still do it, but right now I didnt want to drill anymore holes than I needed, and I was one piece short. The panels do not lay flat either, they did on the 08.

jmvotto
11-03-2012, 08:28 AM
Daze,

Let us know how the panel reinforcement works. I have to do this over the winter.

mmandley
11-03-2012, 12:38 PM
Joe, I did think about that and may still do it, but right now I didnt want to drill anymore holes than I needed, and I was one piece short. The panels do not lay flat either, they did on the 08.

I wonder of this is due to space needed for the Cats, i know on my 08 the panel set only an inch maybe away from the exhaust manifolds and it was closer on the drivers side then the observer side. Mine laid flat as well.

moombadaze
11-03-2012, 08:12 PM
I wonder of this is due to space needed for the Cats,.

think its this and the increased height of the deck combined. i know the storage area just doesnt feel as big with me in it, lots harder to move myself around

rdlangston13
11-04-2012, 01:37 AM
I wonder of this is due to space needed for the Cats, i know on my 08 the panel set only an inch maybe away from the exhaust manifolds and it was closer on the drivers side then the observer side. Mine laid flat as well.

You saying your engine sat slightly more starboard than port?


Sent from my iPhone newtys droid killer using Tapatalk

mmandley
11-04-2012, 11:02 AM
You saying your engine sat slightly more starboard than port?


Sent from my iPhone newtys droid killer using Tapatalk

Yes when i built my V drive braces i made them for the Port side first, and then just matched that up on the starboard but then my bracket was hitting the exhaust manifold. I had to move the Starboard brace back farther to allow it not to hit my manifold

Were only talking like a 1/2 inch but it was enought the panel wouldnt close properly

moombadaze
11-19-2012, 08:12 AM
little update, got the factory amp removed, installed all 3 Exile amps on the factory board, wired up the incabin amp using the factory power power wires just so I can have some music for now. gotta get the correct power cable wires and distribution blocks installed, then its speaker time....

jmvotto
11-19-2012, 09:05 AM
Love to see all three amps on that board, we have the same amp configuration.

Pics pics pics.

moombadaze
11-19-2012, 09:09 AM
took one pic when it was on the tailgate of the truck. I'll work on getting it posted tonight and Ill take one with it in the boat

jmvotto
11-19-2012, 09:19 AM
Great thanks,

moombadaze
11-19-2012, 07:57 PM
ok, on the bed of the truck
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/11-19-12022.jpg

installed
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/11-19-12023.jpg

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/11-19-12024.jpg

E4NASH
11-19-2012, 10:07 PM
Lookin good Daze!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

kaneboats
11-20-2012, 11:22 AM
Schweeeettt!!!!!!!!!!!!

jmvotto
11-20-2012, 11:25 AM
Thanks looks great, what's the aluminum channel for? Circulation.

mmandley
11-20-2012, 11:53 AM
Thanks looks great, what's the aluminum channel for? Circulation.

I have to say with the way the amps are mounted, its so you can reach the adjustment controls. The amps vent threw the sides near the top

moombadaze
11-20-2012, 08:33 PM
boy, some things never go smooth moddin.

dang stereo head unit wont stay on, will power up and then shuts off rapidly, like it lost power-very strange and not sure what the heck has happened. But i will never find out-disconected it completed and am now using the stereo power switch on the dash to turn on the Exile zld and amps, plugged my cell in to the zld with pandora playing and cranked her up. The factory KIcker speakers sound quite a bit better with the additional power. Love haveing the 4 dials to adjust the sound like a eq. Now i really cant wait to get the sub and towers installed along with the exile interior speakers.

bought a sheet of 3/4 birch plywood to make a sub box, anybody want to give me some measurements to get to the correct size needed. thinks its 1.3 for a sealed box.

moombadaze
11-20-2012, 08:36 PM
Thanks looks great, what's the aluminum channel for? Circulation.

you got it, figured with all 3 amps being that close together and being in hot Florida it might not hurt to give them some air flow all the way around, not sure if it really is needed but I really dont want to ever redo a system again.

moombadaze
11-20-2012, 08:44 PM
Schweeeettt!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks....

jmvotto
11-21-2012, 11:12 PM
Check this, I have three measurements ,
Dusty has one and Ian did one ll different shapes for the same driver.

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?17934-Custom-sub-box-mount-pics./page2&highlight=Custom

EricU
11-21-2012, 11:23 PM
... and am now using the stereo power switch on the dash to turn on the Exile zld and amps, plugged my cell in to the zld with pandora playing and cranked her up. The factory KIcker speakers sound quite a bit better with the additional power. Love haveing the 4 dials to adjust the sound like a eq. Now i really cant wait to get the sub and towers installed along with the exile interior speakers.

Nice job! Good looking install - Are you using the dash switch to kill the head unit which then kills the amps?



bought a sheet of 3/4 birch plywood to make a sub box, anybody want to give me some measurements to get to the correct size needed. thinks its 1.3 for a sealed box.

What sub are you using?

I have a complete set of drawings including cut sheets for my W6 install (http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?19037-My-little-sub-enclosure) --- Using a Qtc = 0.8, I got a net box volume of 1.31 cu. ft. and F3 = 40 hz, Gross volume = 1.4 cu. ft.

I can send you the complete set as a pdf, but that was for my old '02. Don't know if it will help with your install.

Eric.

moombadaze
11-23-2012, 07:44 AM
Nice job! Good looking install - Are you using the dash switch to kill the head unit which then kills the amps?



What sub are you using?

I have a complete set of drawings including cut sheets for my W6 install (http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?19037-My-little-sub-enclosure) --- Using a Qtc = 0.8, I got a net box volume of 1.31 cu. ft. and F3 = 40 hz, Gross volume = 1.4 cu. ft.

I can send you the complete set as a pdf, but that was for my old '02. Don't know if it will help with your install.

Eric.

the head unit is completly removed from my system, it will never be used again as I took and conviscated its power wire and relocated it to the amp, we will only be using a Ipod or pandora. I'm also amazed at how much better it sounds not using the head unit-much cleaner sound.


sub --Exile 12", whole system is Exile, gotta all match ya know

Thanks I'll check out your drawings

moombadaze
11-23-2012, 07:47 AM
Check this, I have three measurements ,
Dusty has one and Ian did one ll different shapes for the same driver.

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?17934-Custom-sub-box-mount-pics./page2&highlight=Custom

Thanks Joe, #2 looks just like what I may end up doing--gotta measure the space available and see if that will work

moombadaze
12-01-2012, 09:14 PM
latest shipment from Exile sent out today, all the power wires are on the way. back into the cubby i go to reopen the elbo rugburns that just healed up

jstenger
01-07-2013, 11:16 AM
Joe, I did think about that and may still do it, but right now I didnt want to drill anymore holes than I needed, and I was one piece short. The panels do not lay flat either, they did on the 08.

To get rid of the hinges, I picked up an 8' section of aluminum 1/2" by 1/2" by 1/2" channel from Menards and cut it in half so that I would have a piece for each side. Place it right along side of your aluminum angle which is already mounted. The panels fit perfectly into the channel with a snug fit. The channel thickness is only 1/16", but with the added angle next to it, it is more than sufficiant to hold the panels. I am currently adding more pumps and rear bags to my OBV, so I decided to do this at the same time since I already had the panels out. Very happy with the outcome. Please note that you will have to trim about an 1/8" to 3/16" off the bottom of the panels to accomodate the thickness of the channel and the screw heads.

kaneboats
01-07-2013, 12:26 PM
FYI: You can buy aluminum plates and channel on ebay in a million different sizes. Do a search on your size. I bought "L" channel and a plate for my driver's seat and had them shipped directly to my door. 1 min. with a hacksaw and I was ready to go.

moombadaze
01-07-2013, 04:06 PM
kinda back at it, very slowly but got some little stuff done

finished a ballast line-remodified a little and shortened a vent line for the surfbag.

ran the positive main amp wire-ran it off the switch after the recommendation above since it has a voltage display

brain_rinse
01-10-2013, 11:13 AM
Looks good!

moombadaze
01-11-2013, 08:25 AM
dang stereo head unit wont stay on, will power up and then shuts off rapidly, like it lost power-very strange and not sure what the heck has happened.

while working on the wiring I went ahead and hooked the head unit back up to see if it would work as someone commented a low battery could cause that and I remember having to use batt #2 to start the boat last time out, anyway it was a low battery, headunit works.

Thanks Mike Mandley for the troubleshooting help last night-sorry about the damm cell dropping the call, ended up changing the rca's to the rear output on the head unit, and making adjustments to the settings on the 2 amps and now the sub is pounding--had a empty beer can on the dash dancing and the overhead lights rattling. Freaking awesome.

that digital display on the distribution block is pretty cool

mmandley
01-11-2013, 12:11 PM
Sweet man, glad to help, call or text anytime.

chadjitsu1
03-25-2013, 09:52 PM
Is there any reason to do the reinforcement mod you are showing here for a 07 LSV? I upgraded the back bags to 1100's and have heard that you need to reinforce the engine side panels. I see that you did it but it looks like your boat is newer than mine. I have it all torn apart now so its a good time to get it done if its something that's recommended. Are there any write ups for this mod specifically.

moombadaze
03-26-2013, 08:14 AM
Is there any reason to do the reinforcement mod you are showing here for a 07 LSV? I upgraded the back bags to 1100's and have heard that you need to reinforce the engine side panels. I see that you did it but it looks like your boat is newer than mine. I have it all torn apart now so its a good time to get it done if its something that's recommended. Are there any write ups for this mod specifically.


if your running the 1100's then you will eventually bow the panels in, there not that strong when the heat of the motor and exhaust soften them up.

think Mmandley has a "how to" someplace in here, so far mine are working great

mmandley
03-26-2013, 12:58 PM
if your running the 1100's then you will eventually bow the panels in, there not that strong when the heat of the motor and exhaust soften them up.

think Mmandley has a "how to" someplace in here, so far mine are working great

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?16190-Bracing-your-V-Drive-locker-for-1100-Fat-Sacs&highlight=bracing+drive

E4NASH
03-28-2013, 11:39 AM
If someone could tell me how to remove that rear panel that covers the pumps that would be great. Was looking at it yesterday and I couldn't find any screws or anything to remove the carpeted panel in the locker. I need to remove it so I can install my ballast manifolds to the pumps and run my hoses to 3 new bags. I will NOT be relocating the pumps.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

moombadaze
03-28-2013, 08:46 PM
pretty sure there was two screws going into the floor and then one on each top corner. really should not be to hard to remove

E4NASH
03-28-2013, 09:01 PM
pretty sure there was two screws going into the floor and then one on each top corner. really should not be to hard to remove

Thanks! I will look more closely next time.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

moombadaze
01-12-2014, 01:28 PM
Daze,

Let us know how the panel reinforcement works. I have to do this over the winter. Joe, had the panel out last month when I added the 4th pump and so far the panel is still straight, no bowing at all

moombadaze
01-12-2014, 01:37 PM
couple update I thought I should share. I added a larger bag to go under the port seat base, it was filling from the same pump that fills the 1100lb bag and it was just taking way to long, so I installed a 4th reversible pump I already had. now im right at about 11 minutes too fill all 3500lbs of surf ballast (1100 in port rear, 400 under port seat, 500 tank, 650ibs, 550 on bow seats, 300 in starboard rear) added one switch to the dash for that 4th pump. this photo shows the switch http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/DSCN0134_zps39dd14b6.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/user/moombadaze/media/DSCN0134_zps39dd14b6.jpg.html)also got in on the group buy for the FAE, got a hour today and took the boat out to test every thing and gotta say I love the quite the FAE provideshttp://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/DSCN0133_zps7698af5c.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/user/moombadaze/media/DSCN0133_zps7698af5c.jpg.html)http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/DSCN0132_zps5327f5a7.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/user/moombadaze/media/DSCN0132_zps5327f5a7.jpg.html)http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/DSCN0131_zps8cebf046.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/user/moombadaze/media/DSCN0131_zps8cebf046.jpg.html)

brain_rinse
01-12-2014, 05:16 PM
That FAE sounds like a good upgrade for just about everyone. I'm still waiting to see the new Y design I've heard about.

kaneboats
01-13-2014, 09:55 AM
I really want an FAE but I have to take the platform off every time out. Time to look for another house.

mikenehrkorn
01-13-2014, 10:06 AM
I really want an FAE but I have to take the platform off every time out. Time to look for another house.

Not sure how easy it makes the removal process, but for a couple of extra bucks they offer the quick connect option -- might be easier than buying a new house!! :)

mmandley
01-13-2014, 06:25 PM
I really want an FAE but I have to take the platform off every time out. Time to look for another house.

They have the quick release option and I had it on the LSV which required removing the platform to garage it each time and it wasn't hard at all. Just 2 pins.

Moombadaze glad you like the FAE, I strongly encourage people to get them and when ever someone wants one, Let me know and even if we aren't ding a group buy I will try to get you a discount on the unit.

996scott
01-19-2014, 07:19 PM
"They have the quick release option and I had it on the LSV which required removing the platform to garage it each time and it wasn't hard at all. Just 2 pins."

This is what I was wondering, how easy is the quick disconnect? I have a lsv that I would love to put this on but I have to take my deck off to put it in the garage.

mmandley
01-21-2014, 01:47 PM
"They have the quick release option and I had it on the LSV which required removing the platform to garage it each time and it wasn't hard at all. Just 2 pins."

This is what I was wondering, how easy is the quick disconnect? I have a lsv that I would love to put this on but I have to take my deck off to put it in the garage.


It's simple, pull a cotter key, pull the pin. Lift off the swim deck.

996scott
01-22-2014, 12:05 PM
Thanks, I would love to do this mod this year.

kaneboats
01-22-2014, 02:02 PM
Just be aware that the FAE itself does not come off with the quick release; just the platform does. The FAE will still project 5-6" beyond the wakeplate so you will lose that much clearance in your garage space.

996scott
01-22-2014, 11:54 PM
Ah haaa. I didn't know that. I will have to take some measurements. thanks for that info.

kaneboats
01-23-2014, 09:22 AM
Here's a pic of the FAE Quick Release that FAE sent me:

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=19119&d=1390486959


19119

mikenehrkorn
01-23-2014, 09:29 AM
There's also tons of pics on their website.......www.freshairexhaust.com

mmandley
01-23-2014, 12:02 PM
If your garage space is so tight you have to remove the FAE each time, its not real difficult, just a couple band clamps. Kaneboats is correct though, the FAE does still extend 6inches apx past your wake plate, this is the Down Tube.