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Dev
01-27-2013, 06:24 PM
Hello,

How are you guys running speaker wire in your Oz towers? Upon first glance it seemed really easy, using the stock 2 holes drilled from the factory, run down the front side of the tower into the mounting bracket - but I just pulled the grommet and realized the place that is drilled does not connect to the front tower pole. Are you drilling through the front all the way through to the other side and then plugging it?

Thanks,

Dev

ian ashton
01-27-2013, 06:53 PM
Yes, drill through the first hole into the front tube. I used a fish tape and pushed the wires up from the bottom, and had someone watching through the hole to watch and pull them through. The trick is that the tower needs to be held up a little, just above windshield height.

Dev
01-27-2013, 08:16 PM
Thank you Ian, i'll give it a go tomorrow!

moombadaze
01-28-2013, 09:58 AM
just ran my wires last night, took the simple way myself. I positioned the speakers on the forward down bar, its not a perfect placement. but i only wanted to drill one hole

wolfeman131
01-28-2013, 11:40 AM
pics, please!

Dev
01-28-2013, 01:55 PM
Ian,

I was going run a separate 14ga to each speaker, were you able to pull yours all the way from the bottom up around the bend to the driver side of the boat? Are there any tricks to doing this?

ian ashton
01-28-2013, 04:11 PM
I pulled 12awg down each side, not up and over.

Dev
01-29-2013, 12:16 AM
Oh you've got to be kidding me.

I just finished fishing the wire up both sides, soldered and heat shrunk the connections, and found out the Exile speaker clamp does not fit on the starboard side. WTF? Of course when I test fit, I only put the port side speaker on. I wasn't aware the tower was not identical on the sides.

Suggestions?

moombadaze
01-29-2013, 08:30 AM
the Exile speaker clamp does not fit on the starboard side

Suggestions?

Can you give some more details on what exactly is not fitting. pictures if possible too

ian ashton
01-29-2013, 09:00 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/29/una3yqu6.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/29/uvemumu6.jpg

mmandley
01-29-2013, 09:13 AM
Oh you've got to be kidding me.

I just finished fishing the wire up both sides, soldered and heat shrunk the connections, and found out the Exile speaker clamp does not fit on the starboard side. WTF? Of course when I test fit, I only put the port side speaker on. I wasn't aware the tower was not identical on the sides.

Suggestions?

If you are having fit problems with Exile Clamps, or any problem with Exile Clamps get me pictures and what your problem is, i can help you get it resolved ASAP.

Im not aware of any issues with the new towers and Exile clamps. I know the new towers are a slightly smaller diameter then the prievious years towers but they are still biger then the Outback tower diameter and Exile has speacial clamps for those towers also.

EarmarkMarine
01-29-2013, 10:41 AM
Dev,
Round tower tubes will distort and become more oval in shape as you encounter a bend radius. Is it this or are you wedged in a corner or something else?

David

Dev
01-29-2013, 11:25 AM
There's no problem with the Exile clamps or the shape of the tower. It's more that I am being wedged into a corner by the factory holes and am trying to avoid drilling more. I'll take a few pics in about an hour.

Thanks for the quick replies.

Dev

Dev
01-29-2013, 11:31 AM
Ian,

My tower has a small gap just outside of where yours are mounted. This is where the holes were originally drilled and the reason I am having trouble. They are not symmetrical.

I know the answer is going to be drill a hole and move it to the inside, i'm just delaying the inevitable. :(

mmandley
01-29-2013, 11:37 AM
Ian,

My tower has a small gap just outside of where yours are mounted. This is where the holes were originally drilled and the reason I am having trouble. They are not symmetrical.

I know the answer is going to be drill a hole and move it to the inside, i'm just delaying the inevitable. :(

On a lighter note, you can get caps at the Home Depot to put in the tower holes, paint them black and they will be pretty invisable to the common eye.

EarmarkMarine
01-29-2013, 12:06 PM
Dev,
Exactly from centerline of the existing hole to centerline of the new hole, what will the offset need to be?
Is there as chance that the collar width will cover the existing hole?

David

moombadaze
01-29-2013, 12:29 PM
. They are not symmetrical.

I know the answer is going to be drill a hole and move it to the inside, i'm just delaying the inevitable. :(

noticed that on mine too--not being symmetrical


try not to make swiss cheese out of the tower

Dev
01-29-2013, 12:32 PM
Not possible, i'm going to have to jump to the other side of a pole. This is how it's set up right now (factory drilled holes)

The side that fits:

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anddd the side that doesn't:

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As you can see there's a pretty large gap because the clamp won't fit in the space.


I'll probably just move it to the inside where Ian's are, and put the grommets back in these holes. Unless anyone has a different solution for me.

LOL moombadaze, no swiss cheese here, I haven't actually drilled any holes yet.

moombadaze
01-29-2013, 12:46 PM
i tried for the same spot myself--not even close to fitting-just like your one side.

Dev
01-29-2013, 12:59 PM
Did you just jump the bar to and move it inside? I really wish it would have fit there!

ian ashton
01-29-2013, 08:09 PM
Oh yea, we didn't use the factory holes to mount the clamps, I just used them as a portal to fish the wires. I mounted the clamps slightly inside and drilled a new hole.

moombadaze
01-29-2013, 09:02 PM
how I mounted mine


http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/025-2.jpg

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/moombadaze/026-1.jpg

sorry I dont have the speakers on, but the boat is in the garage and you would not see the mounts with the speakers on

Dev
01-30-2013, 02:15 AM
Mounted mine just like yours. They look great. Thanks everyone!

moombadaze
01-30-2013, 08:16 AM
Mounted mine just like yours. They look great. Thanks everyone!

Mine or Ians?

tarheelskier
01-30-2013, 11:53 AM
Ian, Daze, Dev, when you get the chance can you post up pics of the speakers from the back of the boat, (with the tower up) so we can see both speakers in one shot? I think it would be very helpful for all the new Oz tower owners out there to see the variations of where you guys ended up mounting them. Thanks!

jmvotto
01-30-2013, 12:10 PM
still not sure why the abandoned the v2 as an option

They look great and were easy peasy

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh254/jmvotto/c9dfc0d1.jpg

Sorry to Hijak, back to the Oz thread

Dev
01-30-2013, 02:41 PM
I mounted them on the side like yours daze. You're right jmvotto, those do look great!

I'll grab a pic of it when I get off work.

ian ashton
01-30-2013, 06:56 PM
Ian, Daze, Dev, when you get the chance can you post up pics of the speakers from the back of the boat, (with the tower up) so we can see both speakers in one shot? I think it would be very helpful for all the new Oz tower owners out there to see the variations of where you guys ended up mounting them. Thanks!


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/31/evyzezy8.jpg


This isn't my boat, by the way. It is my buddies 2013 LSV that we did the install on this summer.

mmandley
01-30-2013, 07:10 PM
still not sure why the abandoned the v2 as an option

They look great and were easy peasy

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh254/jmvotto/c9dfc0d1.jpg

Sorry to Hijak, back to the Oz thread

Honestly i think its because even though its a Moomba, from afare everyone thinks its a Malibu, and SC doesnt want to advertise the other boat LOL.

The new OZ tower you can see the cut outs from a distance still so it shows its not a Malibu.
This is just my thinking, i have not herd anything offical.

jmvotto
01-30-2013, 09:53 PM
Honestly i think its because even though its a Moomba, from afare everyone thinks its a Malibu, and SC doesnt want to advertise the other boat LOL.

The new OZ tower you can see the cut outs from a distance still so it shows its not a Malibu.
This is just my thinking, i have not herd anything offical.
Whats the difference between the v2 and the illusion x or the oz and the g3? Still resembles the bu in a way

mmandley
01-30-2013, 11:16 PM
Whats the difference between the v2 and the illusion x or the oz and the g3? Still resembles the bu in a way

Yes but the V2 was Malibus tower and SC bought the rights to use it

jmvotto
01-30-2013, 11:20 PM
Yes but the V2 was Malibus tower and SC bought the rights to use it

Yes from meta craft but why spend the cash and discontinue the option after 2 years. I'm puzzled. No real r&d etc. machining.. Setups

mmandley
01-30-2013, 11:26 PM
Yes from meta craft but why spend the cash and discontinue the option after 2 years. I'm puzzled. No real r&d etc. machining.. Setups

I really dont know lol. All i can think of is the simularity of the two.

I will check a couple sources and see if i can get a real answer

jmvotto
01-30-2013, 11:48 PM
Cool, wife would have passed on a 2012 if oz was the only option.

KG's Supra24
01-31-2013, 12:16 AM
Does skiers still buy towers from XTP? I have no clue who makes the OZ but I think Roswell makes the S-bend. I was thinking XTP bought the illusion/v2 tower, not skiers.

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Dev
01-31-2013, 01:00 AM
as promised...

don't mind the mucky fingerprints everywhere :(

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c275/otcurtsed/Boat/2013-01-30_14-13-44_830_zps69a14d1a.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c275/otcurtsed/Boat/2013-01-30_14-13-02_476_zpse85caa50.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c275/otcurtsed/Boat/2013-01-30_14-13-19_732_zps1fc6ce01.jpg


side note - does anyone know why my windshield is discolored the way it is?

wolfeman131
01-31-2013, 07:35 AM
Does skiers still buy towers from XTP? I have no clue who makes the OZ but I think Roswell makes the S-bend. I was thinking XTP bought the illusion/v2 tower, not skiers.

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Yes to all and XTP makes the Oz. Z5 is also part of XTP now.

The V2 tower didn't last b/c it didn't sell well. Same story as the XLV. JV, you just happened to like both.

IMO, it was hard for most folks looking at a value/pricepoint boat to check the box for that expensive of an option that provided no functional benefit, just a different look.


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moombadaze
01-31-2013, 08:28 AM
Dev, looks great.

I dont see any discoloration on the windshield, just a red reflection

moombadaze
01-31-2013, 08:30 AM
was'nt the V2 option about $4500.00, that alone would keep me from checking that box even as much as I like it. If it was $1500. I thinkmore would have sold as its such a clean looking tower

wolfeman131
01-31-2013, 09:27 AM
side note - does anyone know why my windshield is discolored the way it is?

did you have polarized sun glasses on when looking at it? I believe the curve in the tempered glass creates that effect. take your glasses off and it magically disappears.

jmvotto
01-31-2013, 09:31 AM
Drew, so your saying I am kinda different ... Lol

wolfeman131
01-31-2013, 09:37 AM
Yeah JV, you're a big baller, shot caller who orders the biggest boat with ALL the big ticket options, then you slap in a monster stereo setup. Boy, do I wish my wallet was as fat as yours :)

jmvotto
01-31-2013, 09:39 AM
You funny.... It's not a 242 which would have been nice .

tarheelskier
01-31-2013, 11:24 AM
Thanks for these pics guys, they look great....anyone else have an Oz setup they want to show off?

kaneboats
01-31-2013, 12:52 PM
I love the V2 as well. Still, would not have picked it as an option-- just too much. Sure wish there were 2013 LSV's out there with the V2. If I could get the new LSV hull with that tower I'd think it over. I always liked the way the lines look with the old standard tower so no reason for me to switch up.

Dev
01-31-2013, 02:17 PM
I wasn't talking about the red glare!!! LOL. It actually is a lot more noticeable with sunglasses on (polarized or not) or when it's wet it seems to show a lot. The best way to describe it would be 'spotty' I guess..

Can glass be tempered poorly and show that more as a result?

Dev
01-31-2013, 05:50 PM
purple under dash = 12v ignition source?

wolfeman131
01-31-2013, 05:55 PM
I wasn't talking about the red glare!!! LOL. It actually is a lot more noticeable with sunglasses on (polarized or not) or when it's wet it seems to show a lot. The best way to describe it would be 'spotty' I guess..

Can glass be tempered poorly and show that more as a result?

It's got nothing to do with being "poorly tempered" as it's simply the result of the stress put on the tempered glass when it's shaped into the compound curved shape of the windshield. And, it definately is more noticable when you have on polarized sunglasses and/or the windshield is wet. Look at the flat piece of glass in the walkthru and you will notice it doesn't have the same effect.

Dev
01-31-2013, 06:44 PM
Thanks for the information. I've definitely been curious about it :cool:

jmvotto
01-31-2013, 10:58 PM
Funny my graphics have a purplish tint with polarized sunglasses on..

Oh btw I checked my invoice, v2 was a 3650 option and it included the Bimini.. What was I thinking. LOL

rdlangston13
02-01-2013, 03:41 AM
I think the rad-a-cage tower looks better than the oz but the V2 definitely wins overall. The skylon tower on mikes boat is probably somewhere between the rad-a-cage and v2. I think the old supra progressive tower should come on Moombas now. Or go back on supras to replace the ugly "S" bend tower


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kaneboats
02-01-2013, 11:33 AM
Oh btw I checked my invoice, v2 was a 3650 option and it included the Bimini.. What was I thinking. LOL

You were thinking: "It MAKES the boat." And, "I don't want to look at the boat and every time wish I would have gotten the right tower."

davlow06
05-10-2013, 05:50 PM
Cool, wife would have passed on a 2012 if oz was the only option.

It's funny about that. The Oz tower was what I thought made my Mojo look so good! I like the forward swooping motion of the newer towers like that.

jmvotto
05-12-2013, 11:49 PM
She liked the solid effect of the v2 , not the laddered look of the oz. also we only had cell phone pics of the mojo and oz when we looked to order the boat as it was just released.