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E4NASH
04-07-2013, 05:30 PM
So first day on the lake and my left rear pump is't pumping. It's trying to pump but nothing is coming out. On the water I took off the output hose to see if it was something with my hoses...turned on the pump expecting to get water out and nothing...the other two pumps are working fine. Obviously something has clogged the intake but how can I check that? Obviously when we get back on the trailer I can look and see of there is something there but if I don't see anything what else could it be?


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DOCDRS
04-07-2013, 05:42 PM
Make sure your shut off valve is open , or sounds like you may need a new green impeller. Id also check to make sure there are no kinks in the tubing before or after the pump and clamps are tight.

E4NASH
04-07-2013, 06:17 PM
Valves are open....how can I determine if I need a new impeller? There aren't any kinks and all clamps are tight.


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beat taco
04-07-2013, 06:39 PM
Can you take the hose off the pump and blow through it? Without buying a spare impeller you could swap them between pumps.

E4NASH
04-07-2013, 08:41 PM
I didn't try the blowing method. I use all three pumps so Im not going to swap them. I'll just order a new one and hope it fixes the problem.


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MLA
04-07-2013, 10:47 PM
If you have a W709 pump kit, fill the sac manually with some water, then try to empty using the pump. If the impeller is toast, it wont drain well either. Next, pull the pump cover off and inspect the impeller. When you last used the boat, did you leave the pumps in the drain position, or did you run them in the fill direction for about 5-10 seconds to flip the impellers? This prolongs the life.

wolfeman131
04-07-2013, 10:59 PM
I didn't try the blowing method.

Who wants to take the first "Dusty's Mom" joke of April?

jpetty3023
04-07-2013, 11:45 PM
Who wants to take the first "Dusty's Mom" joke of April?

I think you just did wolfey


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sicktc06
04-08-2013, 10:51 AM
Definitely check your impeller. If you have the Jabsco Pump, it's one you can get from wakemakers, the 6303. You can also get these from West Marine, however they had to order them. I had to replace mine as it was doing the same. However, Mine would turn on, only make a faint sound for a few seconds, then shut off. Didn't do anything. It's not hard to replace these impellers either. If you want some help with it, let me know man! I got peoples in Canton!

E4NASH
04-08-2013, 10:58 AM
Definitely check your impeller. If you have the Jabsco Pump, it's one you can get from wakemakers, the 6303. You can also get these from West Marine, however they had to order them. I had to replace mine as it was doing the same. However, Mine would turn on, only make a faint sound for a few seconds, then shut off. Didn't do anything. It's not hard to replace these impellers either. If you want some help with it, let me know man! I got peoples in Canton!

Word...appreciate that! I ordered some additional hose on Saturday and sent Wakemakers an email last night about adding the impellers to my order. I'm going to go ahead and replace all three. Hopefully that will do the trick!


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jmvotto
04-08-2013, 11:27 AM
If you have a W709 pump kit, fill the sac manually with some water, then try to empty using the pump. If the impeller is toast, it wont drain well either. Next, pull the pump cover off and inspect the impeller. When you last used the boat, did you leave the pumps in the drain position, or did you run them in the fill direction for about 5-10 seconds to flip the impellers? This prolongs the life.

why does it matter is the impellar are in the drain motion vs the fill motion???

mmandley
04-08-2013, 12:12 PM
why does it matter is the impellar are in the drain motion vs the fill motion???

I think the thought here is the boat being on the trailer, you can drain bags with water but not fill them.

I dont think i agree with the running the pumps in the opposite direction to prolong the life if the impellers, either direction they are in will have pressure on them. To truly prolong the life of the impellers they need to be sprayed with a lubricant while in storage. i don't know anyone who does this. I just run mine till the pump makes the funny loud noise of sucking air and water as the bag is almost empty and shut it off. End of the season i remove all my impellers and spray them with bit light weight oil and plastic bag them.

E4NASH
04-13-2013, 10:17 PM
Replaced the impellers and all is good! That 1100 and IBS really made a difference too! At least it looks like it did anyway. I haven't ridden it yet but it looks Huge and the pocket is much longer than before. Had 650 IBS, 400 under left seat, 1100 left rear, and filled the right rear about 500 or 40%. That made a huge difference when I filled the opposite side. Hope to ride it next weekend. Couldn't this weekend bc it was just me and my 3 year old daughter.


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beat taco
04-13-2013, 10:18 PM
Nice! Can't wait to try the 750's!

E4NASH
04-13-2013, 10:43 PM
Forgot I had 400 in the floor locker also...


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mmandley
04-13-2013, 11:18 PM
Replaced the impellers and all is good! That 1100 and IBS really made a difference too! At least it looks like it did anyway. I haven't ridden it yet but it looks Huge and the pocket is much longer than before. Had 650 IBS, 400 under left seat, 1100 left rear, and filled the right rear about 500 or 40%. That made a huge difference when I filled the opposite side. Hope to ride it next weekend. Couldn't this weekend bc it was just me and my 3 year old daughter.


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MLA
04-27-2013, 07:35 PM
why does it matter is the impellar are in the drain motion vs the fill motion???

Joe,

Sorry for the late reply. Its common for the impeller to stick to the housing when the boat is put away for a period. If the impeller is left in the drain position from the last outing, the motor not only has to overcome the friction of flipping the impeller, but also a stuck (dried to the housing) impeller. So we recommend to run the pumps in the fill direction for a few seconds when the ballast is dumped for the last time. This gets the impeller flipped to fill direction for the next trip out. This has not need as wide spread a problem since the pumps have been coming with the green impellers, but it was with the rubber black ones. But, I still thinks a good habit to get into.

MJHSupra
05-02-2013, 11:12 PM
I think the thought here is the boat being on the trailer, you can drain bags with water but not fill them.

I dont think i agree with the running the pumps in the opposite direction to prolong the life if the impellers, either direction they are in will have pressure on them. To truly prolong the life of the impellers they need to be sprayed with a lubricant while in storage. i don't know anyone who does this. I just run mine till the pump makes the funny loud noise of sucking air and water as the bag is almost empty and shut it off. End of the season i remove all my impellers and spray them with bit light weight oil and plastic bag them.

+1 on the light oil and bag. Just like the impeller.
I hear the same thing from any boat tech I talk to.

Mark

moombadaze
05-04-2013, 04:32 PM
That made a huge difference when I filled the opposite side.

with our shallow lake im running into the oposite, my wake wash's out.

hans
06-11-2013, 08:07 PM
When I try to fill or empty my left ballast I can hear the pump working but nothing happen. When I run the boat fast for few minutes the pump start to work again. So do you think it is an impeller problem? Do I have to remove the pump to change the impeller or I can do it with the pump in the boat?

Thanks