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spader
09-11-2013, 10:33 AM
I am brand new to the forums and I am currently looking to purchase my first boat. After visiting a Mastercraft Dealership and talking about looking for a used X2, they brought the Moomba line to my attention since they also carry these in addition to the Mastercraft line. Since I was looking at the X2 they pointed me towards the Mondo and after going out for a demo, we loved the boat but I have to admit it will be my first boat so I wouldn't neccessarily know the difference.

We have 4 kids under the age of 7 and would like to get them into skiing and other water sports. I assume over the next few years we will mainly be teaching them to water ski. Both my wife and I only currently waterski and do it recreationally. We both have interest in wake surfing and I am assuming we will be doing that also. I am also assuming that our kids could potentially get into wakeboarding in the future. We are looking the "cross over" type boat so that we can ski, wakeboard and surf if we want however we will likely be mainly skiing for a while.

3 the features I like about the Mondo are...

1. Deeper hull which seems better for younger kids when they are sitting inside and I was told smoother in busier and bigger lakes.
2. Price in comparison to a new Mastercraft which I cannot afford.
3. Size - it will fit nicely into my garage.

After the boat demo on the lake, the thing I am most concerned about is the ski wake even with the wake plate optimized since we will likely be skiing the majority of the time. It seems rather large but since I am new to this maybe I am completely wrong. I understand that this is not a true direct drive and thus will not give the perfect ski wakes.

Am I looking at the wrong boat? I am curious to see what others think. Thanks for your help!

saskyrider
09-11-2013, 11:05 AM
If your looking for a great crossover boat i think you've found it. Is it going to have the best ski wake... nope because only a direct drive will give that to you, for a boat that is garage friendly and has a deep hull i think its a perfect choice....

good luck with your search....

KG's Supra24
09-11-2013, 11:15 AM
The Mondo could be a great boat for you. The first "plus" you listed, depth, and a quality ski wake are pretty much going to be considered an oxymoron. I have not seen the ski wake but to achieve the boat depth, I think you can assume the ski wake will not be optimal. The LSV might be better? It might be worth looking at if you find the ski wake worse than you are willing to accept. Again, I haven't seen either in person so I could be wrong.

Outback V would be considered the optimal "crossover" boat. From what I've heard, it's one of the few v-drives that holds a candle to a direct drive.

I could be wrong here but I have my doubts that you will be mainly skiing for a while. Where the watersports industry is right now ... best of luck trying to talk your kids out of a wakeboard and/or surfboard!!!

If you were considering a Mastercraft, you may want to consider looking at Supra also. The fit and finish on the new SA and SC are top notch ... big 3 or better top notch. The SC would be similar to the Mondo in size.

Mobius22
09-11-2013, 11:26 AM
I have seen the ski wake on the Mondo and it is as good or better than the LSV, not as good as the Outback V but still VERY good for a deep V-Drive. If you're looking for a good crossover boat then you're looking at the right boat. Wakeboard wake is clean at slow speeds for learning, deep hull for surfing, and a good ski wake for a V-drive.

spader
09-11-2013, 11:30 AM
Thanks guys. I appreciate your input. What you said makes sense.

I actually have an appt scheduled in a couple weeks to go in and select my final options for the Mondo but I wanted to make sure this was the right boat for me. I will take a look at the LSV and Outback to make sure the Mondo fits.

As far as Mastercraft/Supra goes, I realized they are probably out of my price range right now but maybe I could . The Moomba line makes more sense for me.

I agree that skiing could potentially be the least used and I have no problems with our kids wanting to do something else. I will not try to talk them out of that. I will just enjoy being out there with them.

mikenehrkorn
09-11-2013, 11:40 AM
Outback V would be considered the optimal "crossover" boat. From what I've heard, it's one of the few v-drives that holds a candle to a direct drive.


+1 for the Outback V...

I will say that I have only seen a Mondo in pictures and obviously never rode in one, but I just purchased my Outback V in July and just love it. I was coming from a completely different world (SeaRay I/O) and I find the OBV ski wake to be pretty good. Not great and certainly not as good as a DD, but significantly better than my old I/O. And the wake for wakeboarding and surfing is more than my 17 yr old son can handle at this point (not sure how long that will last, but good for now) so I really think the OBV is a great crossover.

Being a father of two teenagers who started boating about the ages of your kids, I can assure that they will definitely be attracted to wakeboarding and surfing VERY quickly. You may get them started on skis which is great, but they will want to do what their friends are doing and that most likely will NOT be skiiing. :)

One other benefit of the OBV is that it will also save you a few bucks to start making all the mods (i.e. added ballast, stereo/speakers, etc.) that you will no doubt want to start doing once you start reading more of this forum!!

Good luck in your search and you really can't go wrong with any of the boats in the Moomba line.

wolfeman131
09-11-2013, 12:44 PM
already been stated across s few replies, but to wrap it all up: Outback V or Mondo are your choices

Outback V will offer the better ski wake and lower price point. Offset is older model & low freeboard
Mondo will offer better wakeboard & surf wake/wave, deep boat, NEW model. Offset is worse ski wake & higher price point.

mikenehrkorn
09-11-2013, 12:48 PM
Yeah, what he said :)

Wax
09-11-2013, 01:10 PM
For some reason I thought the Mondo was going to be a little shorter than the OBV, but I just looked at specs and the Outback V is only 20' so maybe that's not a concern. LSV is probably excluded due to being too long. My old Supra Launch at 20' 8" on the trailer (no swing tongue though) was about 6" too long for my garage, had to be put in at an angle.

I also agree with some of the other posters...even though you may ski most of the time (maybe not after buying a wake boat), I'm sure your kids will be more into boarding, surfing, and tubing than anything as most kids are! Neither are really going to have an optimal ski wake, so it's probably going to come down to which boat you like better.

Your #1 point about the freeboard and handling in rough water, in my opinion that would have not much weight on my decision if any at all. My son is 2 and no matter what kind of boat he's in he still can climb up on the back and try to jump out! You also aren't buying this boat to handle rough water, and really the shape of wake boat hulls isn't condusive to rough water anyway due to the hull being relatively flat towards the rear. I think the difference would be negligible. Maybe the Mondo would be less succeptable to going nose down into a wake, but good driving skills can always prevent that anyway (but sometimes you'll be behind the boat and your unexperienced buddy might be driving lol!).

If price is of concern, definitely consider the OBV (or a used boat). If price isn't much a concern, I would personally go with the Mondo just because it's the cool new model (and therefore probably higher resale value). Or I would also be looking at new Supras, but personally I think the bang for the buck is best with a Moomba.

sandm
09-11-2013, 01:41 PM
based on what you are looking for, I'd say mondo all the way. the obv will have a far superior ski wake, but the mondo should outperform the obv on every other angle: size(width in cabin), depth, handling in chop, surf, wakeboard and as mentioned, it's a much newer model so if you decide to buy a supra in the near future, depreciation should be better.

I'd take the mondo over the x2 anyday just based on the depreciation factor alone. the x2 is a solid boat, but most I have seen have ranged in the upper 70's new fairly well equipped.

spader
09-11-2013, 01:42 PM
Thanks everyone for your input. I appreciate it!

I definately like the look of the new Mondo much better and am coming to the conclusion that lots of skiing may go to the wayside and we will be doing all of the other activities more. I am fine with that.

I tend to overthink big decisions like this but I think the Mondo is the way to go for me.

Wax
09-11-2013, 02:57 PM
Well, it is a pretty big decision, so it's understood! You won't regret your choice, either way you go. Again, I think everybody's consensus is Mondo!

When I was looking for my "new" boat (just wanted to upgrade from my Launch DD to a V-drive), I didn't even really consider Moomba. I was looking pretty much only at Supras and Nautiques, since I have spent a lot of time behind each. Never really a fan of Malibu, and MC seems overpriced and overrated IMO (although I did look at a couple). All I really knew about Moomba was relatively negative stereotype kind of stuff. When I started actually doing research, it seemed like Moomba was a very viable option. It was kind of like I just had to make myself do it and overcome my concerns, basically take the plunge. Couldn't be happier since that first morning I brought it home and took my first wakeboard run.

Wax
09-11-2013, 03:03 PM
Ironically, here's me 3 months ago...literally scared to change boats. I made other members on this forum convince me it would be okay lol!

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?22444-Questions-about-05-Mobius-LSV

EricU
09-11-2013, 03:10 PM
...I could be wrong here but I have my doubts that you will be mainly skiing for a while. Where the watersports industry is right now ... best of luck trying to talk your kids out of a wakeboard and/or surfboard!!!

I agree with KG, I grew up skiing and back in '03 went to my local watersports dealership to get new bindings for my old HO Mach 1, I had to buy a new ski as mine was too old (like myself) for new bindings. My kids were young then and I knew that a lot of kids wakeboarded. Well, I ended up walking out of that store with a new ski, two new wakeboards and a new 21' Team Edition Natique.

I grew up skiing the local Nor Cal Delta and I don't think that I have used that ski since the first season. All we do is board and now surf.

I would find it hard to believe that if this is your first boat, that you wouldn't get hooked on boarding and surfing as I figure if you were a hard core skier, you would have already owned a few boats as you would probably be over fifty years old...

i.e. get the biggest damn boat you can afford and can fit in your storage and start adding kids, kid's friends, ballast, stereo equipment and enjoy the memories!

mikenehrkorn
09-11-2013, 03:42 PM
get the biggest damn boat you can afford and can fit in your storage and start adding kids, kid's friends, ballast, stereo equipment and enjoy the memories!

Best advice I have ever heard.....I need to write that down

spader
09-11-2013, 05:46 PM
I would find it hard to believe that if this is your first boat, that you wouldn't get hooked on boarding and surfing as I figure if you were a hard core skier, you would have already owned a few boats as you would probably be over fifty years old...

I am not a hard core skiier and I am not over 50 so yes you are probably predicting my future and I accept that. That's why I asked what I asked as I figured you guys have already been through this!


i.e. get the biggest damn boat you can afford and can fit in your storage and start adding kids, kid's friends, ballast, stereo equipment and enjoy the memories!

Couldn't agree more.

Thanks everyone for the input. This is what I was looking for.

EricU
09-11-2013, 11:08 PM
Another benefit is the freaking amazing support that you will find on this forum. A few years ago I purchased an old '02 Moomba Mobius as an interim boat and fell in love with it. I had a lot of questions and there is a lot of real information available on this site. Guys have fixed, tweaked or added just about anything you can think off from brand new boats like you are looking at (multiple) to guys with old boats: Check out Berg's rebuild (amazing) or 98moomba's rebuild (Unbelievable!)

I decked mine out with a new stereo, bimini, custom Evolution cover, ballast, perfect pass, SeaDeck and more (I call it the "Zipper Effect). I found another boat that I couldn't pass on (shhhh, I don't want to get kicked off this site!!) but still love the wake that Moomba puts out. It will be hard to sell.

Get the Moomba minus ballast and stereo, troll the Moomba forums, call MLA or WakeMakers, Acme and either Wetsounds, Exile or Kenwood, buy a used surfboard (there are many), a couple of wakeboards with closed toe boots (2010 or newer) and just plan on having a BLAST next season -- Unless you live in Florida???

Good luck and enjoy the p!$$ out of it!!

spader
09-11-2013, 11:27 PM
i.e. get the biggest damn boat you can afford and can fit in your storage and start adding kids, kid's friends, ballast, stereo equipment and enjoy the memories!

Uh oh. I just measured the depth of my garage and it is 23'3".

Wax
09-12-2013, 08:49 AM
Uh oh. I just measured the depth of my garage and it is 23'3".

That's standard. A 20' boat with a swing tongue will fit fine. You'll have to take the rear deck off though, but that's no problem.

sandm
09-12-2013, 09:57 AM
Uh oh. I just measured the depth of my garage and it is 23'3".

mojo :)

I have a 23.2" garage depth and have a 22ft boat in it with platform off and swingtongue.

spader
09-12-2013, 10:34 AM
mojo :)

I have a 23.2" garage depth and have a 22ft boat in it with platform off and swingtongue.

I have to admit this was my first thought after reading the posts about buying the biggest boat that I can afford and fit in storage as well as the predictions that skiing could be a thing of the past for us as well. I would definitely like to have more space for as many people as possible but if there isn't a huge difference between the Mondo and Mojo, then I probably would stick to the Mondo.

My only concern is that our door to the house from the garage sits towards the back of this longer area and it's possible we wouldn't be able to use that door depending on the width of the back of the boat:eek:. Does anyone know the width of the back of a Mojo?

I probably should just stick with the Mondo but figured I would ask.

Thanks again everyone.

Wax
09-12-2013, 10:38 AM
Mojo beam is 99"...I would assume Mondo isn't too much different.

mikenehrkorn
09-12-2013, 10:46 AM
Mojo beam is 99"...I would assume Mondo isn't too much different.

But the boat would also be on the trailer, so that adds another 8-12"??

spader
09-12-2013, 11:24 AM
18435

The greatest width would not be a problem even with the trailer. I was more curious about the back of the boat (after removing the platform) which would sit by our door to the house. From the picture above it looks like the back of the boat is narrower but maybe this is negligible with the trailer.

The Mojo is probably a little too long for my garage and would be a tight fit. Wouldn't want to prevent us from entering our house through the garage!

wolfeman131
09-12-2013, 11:29 AM
the boat may narrow some at the stern, but remember that the trailer guides poles are back there.

mikenehrkorn
09-12-2013, 11:36 AM
the boat may narrow some at the stern, but remember that the trailer guides poles are back there.

And the guide poles need to handle the boat at its widest point, so you are probably talking at least 110-115" if the beam is 99" and maybe even more.

spader
09-12-2013, 11:52 AM
Yeah, the Mojo likely too big. I was looking at the dimensions on their blog. Is this width with the trailer incorrect? I believe its the same with the Mondo. If this is incorrect, I may have an issue with even the Mondo. I will have to take a look at this.


Overall Length w/o Platform: 22' 6"
Overall Length w/ Platform: 24' 6"
Overall Length w/ Trailer: 26' 2"
Width (Beam): 99"
Overall Width w/ Trailer: 102"Draft: 27.5"
Weight - Boat only: 3,900 lbs
Weight - Boat and Trailer: 5,100 lbs
Capacity - Passenger: 16
Capacity - Weight: 2,400 lbs
Capacity - Fuel: 49 gals
Capacity - Ballast (Standard): 1,800 lbs
Capacity - Ballast (Optional): NA
Engine - Electronic Fuel Injection: 330 HP, V-8

mikenehrkorn
09-12-2013, 11:56 AM
I have a real hard time believing that the trailer is only 3" wider than the boat......each of the guide poles are at least a couple of inches each.

mikenehrkorn
09-12-2013, 11:58 AM
Actually, if its the width that you're worried about, then that would probably be a problem with all the Moomba models because even the OBV has a beam of 96"

EricU
09-12-2013, 11:59 AM
...The Mojo is probably a little too long for my garage and would be a tight fit. Wouldn't want to prevent us from entering our house through the garage!

I don't know what your house/garage situation is, but if that is the main man door from the house to the garage and you are worried about blocking the door, then you definitely need to get that figured out.

How far away is your Moomba dealer? What boats does he have on the floor?

See if you can measure one up and then set up some old boxes, poles or whatever else you can scrounge up to build a "Mock Up" of the area that the boat will sit.

Better yet, ask the dealer if they could bring a boat over to your house if you are seriously going to be purchasing a boat at the end of the season. Boat shop owners tend to go way out of their way compared to something like auto sales. Cant hurt to ask. The worst thing they can say is "No". Got any local buddies with boats? Doesn't have to be a Moomba, just use someone else's as a reference.

Remember, you will need to back that thing in there after long and tiring weekends (with the family jetting into and disappearing into the house!) and the boat will be a foot or so off the side wall, which is tight. Any other cars in the garage? How often will the boat be in the garage, just for winter? Or every night?

When your boat is brand new, you might not mind crawling around it to get into the garage, but if you are married, it will get old (quickly) when it's not boating season if it is in the way.

spader
09-12-2013, 12:26 PM
We have a 3 stall garage. One double stall which is shorter and a single stall that is a bit longer. When I mentioned the width before as being an issue, I was only thinking about the 3rd single stall which is currently empty. I forgot that the Mondo will fit in all 3 stalls as it is shorter so the width won't be an issue with the double stall. Sorry, I forgot about that before I sent my last post. I was initially getting too excited about the Mojo possibility and too focused on that.

Yes I am married and I think the Mondo will just be an easier boat to deal with taking into consideration backing it into the garage and storage. I don't want a tight fit and have the kids banging into it all the time either. I am thinking that it will only be in the garage during the boating season and then will be stored elsewhere during the winter. If there seems to be a way to store it in the garage during the winter, we may do that also but we will have to see.

After taking all of these things into consideration, I think the Mojo is out of the question.

Once again, thanks everyone for all of the feedback.

EricU
09-12-2013, 12:43 PM
...After taking all of these things into consideration, I think the Mojo is out of the question...

Sounds like an excellent choice and I am sure it will provide years of fun, Most of my boats (and I have had a lot of them) were under 21', only the last four have been 21' or longer. A 20.5' Mondo sounds like a very fun machine!

Bring that thing to Nor Cal and I'll bring out my boards!! Let's GO!!

spader
09-12-2013, 12:58 PM
I would love to come to Nor Cal but I think that would be quite a haul from MN!

EricU
09-12-2013, 01:03 PM
I would love to come to Nor Cal but I think that would be quite a haul from MN!

But warmer! Let's see how you feel next April!!!

Good luck on your purchase and don't forget to post pics!

Wax
09-12-2013, 02:16 PM
Actually, if its the width that you're worried about, then that would probably be a problem with all the Moomba models because even the OBV has a beam of 96"

This was more of my point, it's going to be pretty negligible what type of boat you get when you're talking about width now. Even if you go get a similar size I/O I bet the width including the trailer won't be much different.

Spader, I think you'll be perfectly fine with a 3 car garage...even if your boat took up your entire garage, trust me you'd be putting it in there instead of your cars. You'll just have to scrape your wife's windows.

I'd be willing to bet you could fit a Mojo in your garage. Take some measurements. If not and you want to go with the bigger boat anyway, just add on!

Wax
09-12-2013, 02:18 PM
We have a 3 stall garage. One double stall which is shorter and a single stall that is a bit longer. When I mentioned the width before as being an issue, I was only thinking about the 3rd single stall which is currently empty.

Oh yeah, I forgot you said the 2 car side was shorter...Mojo will fit diagonally in your 2 car stall! Like I said, scrape some windows in the winter.

spader
09-12-2013, 02:37 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot you said the 2 car side was shorter...Mojo will fit diagonally in your 2 car stall! Like I said, scrape some windows in the winter.


Not sure I can pull this one off but I wish!

spader
09-12-2013, 02:49 PM
I am not overly worried about the greatest width of the boat. I was more worried about the width in the back and the effect it would have on us using the door to the house.

I sent quick email to the dealer here asking them to take a few measurements. The trailer must taper somewhat along the back along with the boat. I asked for the measurement from the outside of one guide pole to the outside of the other guidepole. They said it came in at 101.5" so just under the 102" that is listed.

92.5" - Fender to fender if guidepoles are removed - (they said they have modified this to include a quick release pin if this is needed so they can be taken off - I don't think I need this though but I guess it could be an option)

Either way I am going to the dealer next Monday to hopefully finalize my options. I still don't think I could pull off having the Mojo take up 2 stalls during the winter. Now.....I think I could potentially maybe pull this off during the boating season and store the Mojo elsewhere during the winter!

I had my mind set on a Mondo due to the size and now I am questioning it again. You guys keep messing with my head!

EricU
09-12-2013, 02:55 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot you said the 2 car side was shorter...Mojo will fit diagonally in your 2 car stall!...

And then you would have an excuse to buy (yourself), uh the family! a motorcycle to fit next to it!!

mikenehrkorn
09-12-2013, 02:55 PM
Now.....I think I could potentially maybe pull this off during the boating season and store the Mojo elsewhere during the winter!


That's what I do.............easier to store cars outside during the summer when there are no windows to scrape!!!

EricU
09-12-2013, 02:58 PM
Fender to fender if guidepoles are removed - (they said they have modified this to include a quick release pin if this is needed so they can be taken off - I don't think I need this though but I guess it could be an option)

If the quick release guide poles are an option - get em since you will be storing it in a garage.

mikenehrkorn
09-12-2013, 03:00 PM
If the quick release guide poles are an option - get em since you will be storing it in a garage.

Those must be standard these days because my 2013 OBV has them and I don't think I paid extra for that...

sandm
09-12-2013, 04:11 PM
here is what I was told from a dealer last year when I was shopping... don't know if there's truth to it, but conincidentally my boat has a 102" beam and the trailer is exactly 102" wide from tire to tire.

the australian wakeboat market has been cranking for some years now. 102" is the widest beam that wakeboats come in(sans x80?). trailers are also made at 102" with removable guide poles as that's also the widest "vehicle" that can be loaded into a container for shipment overseas. dealers on the west coast regions have been selling a ton of boats over the last 3-5years to the aussies as their market is strong and due to the flipflop of winter/summer, it affords income thru the winter months(within the used market). I also thought it had something to do with the max. trailerable width without a permit, but I could be wrong.

Wax
09-12-2013, 11:48 PM
You could take your trailer to any competent welding shop and they could make them quick release. That's a good idea if they're doing it standard now.

sandm is correct, in most states the max vehicle width is 102" I believe.

Wax
09-12-2013, 11:51 PM
Although I don't think that includes mirrors and stuff that sticks out from the vehicle, therefore maybe you could get away with the guilde poles being similar "appendages" lol. I doubt it though, I bet if somebody with that wide of a boat looks in their manual it says to remove the guide poles prior to transportation due to highway regulations, or something similar.

snowboardcorey
09-13-2013, 01:18 PM
I had the Mondo out on a demo yesterday, we meant to go skiing but the conditions were HORRIBLE. Here is the wake at 32mph, plate is somewhere around 60% down, figured you guys would like to check it out.
18451

kaneboats
09-13-2013, 01:21 PM
He can probably live with that. Definitely a little better than LSV and almost comparable to the OBV.

snowboardcorey
09-13-2013, 01:25 PM
Here is a shot of the surf wake. Set up is 10.4 mph, stock ballast (center and port) full, 300lbs under the obs seat and two people in the boat. Wake plate set to 50% down. 18452

kaneboats
09-13-2013, 01:27 PM
You can definitely see some potential there. I think some serious nose weight is in order b/c she's looking steep even with just the minimal weight you were running. Can't wait to see some pics as folks get these dialed in. It's going to be something special.

snowboardcorey
09-13-2013, 01:29 PM
One final surf shot, it was CRAZY windy with rollers down the entire lake. 18453

spader
09-13-2013, 01:52 PM
Looks good to me! Thanks, can't wait to try this out but unfortunately that means early next summer! Man that seems like a long way off.

patrick232
09-13-2013, 02:47 PM
I've driven the Mondo and it has the feel of a much bigger boat than the LSV. Moomba has hit the nail on the head with the Mondo and are making them as fast as they can. I was at the factory yesterday and just have to say I have pipe dreams as my wife would say. Picked out the interior colors, no more white for me. The deck will be red, now just need to dial in the hull and sides. Plus sell my LSV

spader
09-13-2013, 02:53 PM
I've driven the Mondo and it has the feel of a much bigger boat than the LSV. Moomba has hit the nail on the head with the Mondo and are making them as fast as they can. I was at the factory yesterday and just have to say I have pipe dreams as my wife would say. Picked out the interior colors, no more white for me. The deck will be red, now just need to dial in the hull and sides. Plus sell my LSV

No more white for you? What interior colors are you going with and why the change? Just curious as I hope to finalize these options soon for a new Mondo.

patrick232
09-14-2013, 12:14 PM
No more white for you? What interior colors are you going with and why the change? Just curious as I hope to finalize these options soon for a new Mondo.
Our first Moomba had the light gray and did not show the dirt like this one with white. I thinking dove gray and the light gray with red piping. Monday i will post a pix with grays and green.

TJockey
11-24-2013, 11:32 PM
Here is a shot of the surf wake. Set up is 10.4 mph, stock ballast (center and port) full, 300lbs under the obs seat and two people in the boat. Wake plate set to 50% down. 18452

Ok. I think this is my first post. That might seem dumb, but I have been trolling info for a long time (thank you for all the info!) and did not even realize that I had already reg. so I don't know if I posted along time ago. Anyway, I finally put money down on a Mondo!!! Which gets me to my question. What is an obs seat? and how did you add the #300, in a fatsac? It may sound as if I am clueless but I have been skiing since I was about 7, but from about 25-40 I was not able to do it at all. When I got back on the water I did not see much skiing...... just wakeboading. So I picked that up and now I need a v drive boat so we can surf, and on these "newer" things.... I am clueless. Just trying to decide if I should add additional ballast right away or wait. Thanks BTW love the pic of the wake, looks like a great time!

wolfeman131
11-25-2013, 12:05 AM
Surf = addtl ballast right away

sandm
11-25-2013, 06:13 AM
either call wakemakers or pm MLA(mike) on here and they can set you up with what you need and all the install directions. you will want more ballast for surfing from the start :)

welcome and post pics when you pick it up..

TJockey
11-25-2013, 08:08 AM
Thanks wolfeman131 and sandm for the info. I have a april 1st delivery date so that gives me a lot of time to plan.

Mobius22
11-25-2013, 09:38 AM
Awesome! Congrats!! Can't wait to see pics

kaneboats
11-25-2013, 10:04 AM
What is an obs seat? and how did you add the #300, in a fatsac?

I'm not sure where you saw "obs seat" but I'm sure someone just abbreviated the phrase "observer's seat" which simply means the seat across from the driver traditionally occupied by the observer of the skier (required by most states' laws). The ballast bags in these boats are mostly plug and play so you replace a smaller or "stock" bag with an aftermarket larger bag to increase the available weight. Good luck to you!

marman
12-20-2013, 08:07 PM
I finally got my trailer swapped out today with the swing away tongue and put the Mondo in the garage. Thought I would post the dimensions of my garage. I have 20' 9" of length and it fit, barely. I had the factory mounted spare option and had to remove the spare in order to swing the tongue out of the way enough. I also had to take the trim plate down. Used a 4 1/2" drop to get it to fit under the 7 '2" door. But it fit!

mparker2997
12-20-2013, 09:44 PM
Like a glove! Congratulations. I have an LSV and I "thought" that I had a tight fit me in my garage.

jpetty3023
12-20-2013, 10:50 PM
man that is a tight fit. how long you figure to spend each time putting her away?


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marman
12-21-2013, 08:28 AM
man that is a tight fit. how long you figure to spend each time putting her away?


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I will only store it in the garage during the winter, just too much work! I will keep it under a cover behind my house during the summer when in use. I hope to build a bigger deck behind my house in a couple of years to put it under. I think they make under deck ceiling systems I hope to utilize. The garage makes a nice place to do mods during the winter but sadly I have no money because I bought a new boat!

marman
12-21-2013, 03:53 PM
I'll only do this for winter storage. During boating season I will just leave it out and put the cover on!

Boonejeepin
12-21-2013, 07:08 PM
I know the feeling. First day with boat and travel trailer at the new house. It fits!http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/22/ha8ane7a.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/22/yvubedu9.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/22/avuhejed.jpg

mmandley
12-21-2013, 07:29 PM
Dam guys, I thought my old house with the LSV was tight but i didn't have to drop the wake plate down LOL

moombadaze
12-22-2013, 09:07 AM
now that's a tight fit, but its a fit and for winter storage its worth it.

WhiskeyRunner
09-07-2014, 09:18 PM
I echo many of the stories you see on this thread; the Mondo is that perfect balance of family/surfing/wakeboarding and entertaining boat. I bought mine mid June this summer, and have 85+ hours on it already. It has been extremely reliable while transitioning from tubing for kids aged 4-42, to wakeboarding (blew out my knee) and a sweet wave for surfing which is now my go to sport.

The depth and weight of the boat is hardly noticeable, it does a great job handling and cutting through the water. I've been really impressed especially given the price point, there's very little that I'd want that I don't have. That being said, I've driven many boats (and Mondo is my favorite, albeit biased) and I agree with what other people have shared. Couple things to add:

proximity of the dealer is key... things will always need to be fixed and lugging it out of the water and getting it to the dealer becomes an all-day chore... if there's no other difference in your choices, go with proximity and you won't give up those days towing to/from. probably obvious statement

The swim platform is removable, which I'm about to try myself as I winterize in 2 weeks. I have approximately the same size garage as others, so I'm nervous to see if I can actually get it in the garage... Marman's a genius dropping the hitch down, I might have to copy that idea. Something to think about- I purposely bought the non-tandem trailer (2 wheels instead of 4). I know it's going to be a tight fit in the garage, and you can physically push and move the trailer by hand for those minor adjustments, with four wheels it's that much more difficult. If you aren't expecting to trailer a bunch, it might be a consideration and save you a grand on better options.