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mmandley
12-14-2013, 09:19 AM
Well I had my hand forced by the Diesel Gods or Demons of the International Engine.
We have had such bad cold weather up here that driving the Diesel to work the last couple weeks and starting it when the oil and coolant was 24 degrees broke a lot of things.
At home I plug it in to the house to warm the engine, at work it sits, for 13 hours in the cold ;(

Last Saturday the truck blew a front crank seal, then oil pump seal, then oil pan seal. by Monday it was leaking 3 good size puddle in 10 minutes. When we went to the dealer to have it looked at it literally had 4 inch wide, from the left tire to the right tire of oil on the ground in 15 minutes. Costing a minimum of 3k up wards of 5k or more to remove the cab of the truck and engine to reseal everything was a deal breaker for me.

I have had to hang up my Diesel hat and pull out my Gas Truck hat again. I was sad at first but honestly the more time i spend in my new truck the more I'm ok with the choice.

I have crossed over to the EcoBoost crowd.

Pluses I see are i worked a 7/75K true bumper to bumper warranty in the deal where everything is covered except tires. This includes the brakes, bulbs even wiper blades. Also got the service package added that covers all maintenance, oil changes, belts, hoses, trans, rear end services.

Spent 6 hours at the dealer making the deal but I was like a pit bull on my expectations

So fare truck is showing 18mpg and with gas .75 cents a gallon cheaper that will be nice.

I choose a 13 F150 FX4 Super Crew Eco Boost with a 6.5 bed on it. i was lucky to even find one as the 6.5 beds are pretty uncommon i hear.

I went with a Black truck again because i just love Black LOL. I guess this means my next boat will be Black.

Today she goes in for the front leveling kit, and Monday is Window tint.

Heres some pics.

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In this pic you can actually see some of the oil the diesel was leaking, that was Saturday when it started after 10 minutes.

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Dealer Pics.

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mmandley
12-14-2013, 09:20 AM
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mmandley
12-14-2013, 09:21 AM
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wolfeman131
12-14-2013, 09:28 AM
Sweet new ride, but sure sorry to hear of the issues you had with the other truck.

sandm
12-14-2013, 10:21 AM
nice truck.

will be interesting to hear some longterm results of the ecoboost. seems that the ford camp is pretty split on the eco vs coyote engine.
having owned several turbo'ed cars, lots of room left in that engine for tuning, but 2xturbos = 2x$$ when there's issues.

mmandley
12-14-2013, 10:57 AM
nice truck.

will be interesting to hear some longterm results of the ecoboost. seems that the ford camp is pretty split on the eco vs coyote engine.
having owned several turbo'ed cars, lots of room left in that engine for tuning, but 2xturbos = 2x$$ when there's issues.

Exactly but this is why I got the big warrenty as part of my deal. The last 2 trucks i got where used, and had short warrenties, this is my 2nd New Truck also my 2nd F150. I got a buddy at Ford that has this truck but in the Limited trim, he hadded the cold air intake, exhaust and tuner. Longer term i plan to change the air intake, and exhaust, but doubt I go tuner on this truck because I don't want warrenty issues.

I hear about the same, 50/50 on like and dislike the EcoBoost. I'm hoping i stay in the Like catagory. I'll be stuck with this truck for 3 years before I'm green enough to make a trade worth while.

I plan to keep this truck quite a while since I generally only trade my trucks when I get castrostophic failures.

Drew, big F350 will be missed, I know I'll miss it the most pulling large grades, and being able to haul all the gear in the 8ft bed. Claudia was pretty upset when she heard the news on the 350. I think she liked that truck more then me, if thats possible LOL.

I will own a diesel again but not untill I feel comfortable paying 60+ for a new one. I am done with Used trucks. Bought 2 in the last 4 years and both went south right at 100K.

wolfeman131
12-14-2013, 12:12 PM
I plan to keep this truck quite a while


Ha. This may be the most funny posts you have ever had. Dude, you have had more trucks in the past 4 yrs than I have in the past 40!

TJockey
12-14-2013, 02:24 PM
Nice looking ride. (and I'm not even a Ford man)

pdx 12mojo
12-14-2013, 03:45 PM
Nice looking truck. Whats the towing capacity on that thing? I am hoping to upgrade before summer rolls around and was thinking of an f150 with ecoboost.

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deerfield
12-14-2013, 05:01 PM
Mike - Handsome truck. Regarding the diesel, were the repairs covered by warranty? - Stuart

mmandley
12-14-2013, 05:15 PM
Nice looking truck. Whats the towing capacity on that thing? I am hoping to upgrade before summer rolls around and was thinking of an f150 with ecoboost.

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If you get the tow package, its 11.2K
Without i think its 9K.

Stuart, no truck is out of the 5/100K so I had no warrenty.
When i got the truck i had a 2 / 24K engine warrenty and that was also expired. So all repairs are out of pocket.

jpetty3023
12-14-2013, 07:20 PM
looks good double M. buddy just bought one and threw a 4 inch lift and some raptor rims. I'll try and grab some pics


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newty
12-14-2013, 08:22 PM
Wow! Congrats on the new truck!
Did you eat the repair on the trade in? 3 fords in a row with problems...
Where are all the dodge truck jokes now? Lol. Should have picked up a Cummins!
Averaging 18mpg with 37's and no oil on the ground.
All jokes aside, great looking truck, hope this does the job for you.

mmandley
12-14-2013, 09:28 PM
Wow! Congrats on the new truck!
Did you eat the repair on the trade in? 3 fords in a row with problems...
Where are all the dodge truck jokes now? Lol. Should have picked up a Cummins!
Averaging 18mpg with 37's and no oil on the ground.
All jokes aside, great looking truck, hope this does the job for you.

Wow! Congrats on the new truck! Thanks
Did you eat the repair on the trade in? 3 fords in a row with problems... Actually 2 the 06 5.4 was just a pig towing
Where are all the dodge truck jokes now? I got plenty still. Lol. Should have picked up a Cummins! If Ram would have picked up that 5.0 Cummins i would have.
Averaging 18mpg with 37's and no oil on the ground. Nice how many miles ya got?
All jokes aside, great looking truck, hope this does the job for you

I actually was seriously considering a Ram truck. Went to Ram Dealer <on my way to Ford> and they just low balled the F350 really bad. I wasn't surprised with the issues. The problem came when making a deal on a new truck. They just didn't want to budge on anything. So I got up and left.

As for the trade in I was expecting low 20s because of the oil leak but they ended up giving me 23 and some change. The fact the truck was in excellent condition, and had new tires, camper shell, and the interior was really nice they worked with me on the trade in.

maxpower220
12-14-2013, 09:38 PM
I'm just over 1 yr with my EB F150. I still love it. The EB is a great engine. Read up on the F150 forums, intakes and exhausts do nothing to the truck except change the sound. A tune is good for @ 50 hp/100 ft. I am avg 18.5 for the yr in mixed driving.

Mine is rated for 10.8 on towing and with my boat, it doesn't feel it.

I'm sure you will enjoy it.

rdlangston13
12-14-2013, 09:45 PM
I've never heard of all those issues from just 23 degrees. That sounds very very odd to me. Is this a common thing with the 6.4 in colder climates??


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moombacraze
12-14-2013, 10:58 PM
Congrats on the truck. I just hit the year mark as well with my Ecoboost. I still have a perma-grin every time I drive it.

mmandley
12-15-2013, 11:49 AM
I've never heard of all those issues from just 23 degrees. That sounds very very odd to me. Is this a common thing with the 6.4 in colder climates??


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I personally haven't heard of this issue but dealer didn't seem surprised.
I do know the front crank seal, bed pan seals, and oil pump cover seal are more common fail items at 100k according to the diesel forums.

I know each of the big 3 have issues and Ford has always been lower mileage.
6.0 has always been egr system, oil cooler, and heads
6.4 is cooling system oil leaks

Real problem comes in a lot of major repairs you have to remove the entire cab. That alone adds 1-2k to all major repairs.
Dodge and Chevy have there issues also but I'm not going to go that direction.

I seriously considered a Ram diesel or Duramax. Problem with Ram is those huge honking tow mirrors. Also the tires look small on the truck so I'd be spending 2k on lifting the front and new tires.

Chevy didn't get an option because I think Chevy needs a 4-6inch lift to even look tuff. Also Claudia is a Ford girl and that says a lot when you have to keep the Mrs happy.

rdlangston13
12-15-2013, 12:44 PM
Fords do look the best hands down!


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newty
12-15-2013, 01:56 PM
Averaging 18mpg with 37's and no oil on the ground. Nice how many miles ya got?

85k. What issues are you talking about regarding dodge?
I really having heard anything.

mmandley
12-15-2013, 03:00 PM
85k. What issues are you talking about regarding dodge?
I really having heard anything.

injectors, trans, mostly.

but like everything its all how you drive it, maintain it and such.

I know my F350 had 3 radiators and some egr issues under 30K but that's typical on the 08s before Ford updated the radiators.

muehlcj
12-15-2013, 04:46 PM
Took turns driving my buddies '13 eco from upstate NY to White Lake NC to pick up his Z1. 19-20 mph on the way down without boat, awesome. 9-10 mph on the way back with boat, sad.

mmandley
12-15-2013, 10:50 PM
Took turns driving my buddies '13 eco from upstate NY to White Lake NC to pick up his Z1. 19-20 mph on the way down without boat, awesome. 9-10 mph on the way back with boat, sad.
Contrary to what not claim the F350 averages 12 mpg to AZ and back with the boat. That's not bad but certainly not great. In time I'll be able to tow the boat and really see how it does.

The F350 got on average 3 mpg less in OR then AZ do to the hills here

kaneboats
12-16-2013, 09:42 AM
Congrats on the new one and sorry on the old one. Love the black on this one. I see some Exile in its future.

KG's Supra24
12-16-2013, 09:57 AM
Bum deal on the diesel but the new truck looks great.

bergermaister
12-16-2013, 03:49 PM
Nice ride, but Wow Mr Diesel - gotta say I'm surprised. :confused:

With the way you turn over vehicles you oughta just get a dealer's license.

rdlangston13
12-16-2013, 07:11 PM
Contrary to what not claim the F350 averages 12 mpg to AZ and back with the boat. That's not bad but certainly not great. In time I'll be able to tow the boat and really see how it does.

The F350 got on average 3 mpg less in OR then AZ do to the hills here

I had a guy argue with me that diesels get the same fuel mileage towing as they do not towing. I couldn't convince him that more weight means you need more power which means you need more fuel and air. Some people


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mmandley
12-16-2013, 08:48 PM
I had a guy argue with me that diesels get the same fuel mileage towing as they do not towing. I couldn't convince him that more weight means you need more power which means you need more fuel and air. Some people


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Berg yes it was hard to step out of a diesel but I just don't want to spend enough to buy a new one, and I don't want a used one again. I have considered getting a dealers license, not out of the question LOL.

Dave, exactly people say that all the time. Its not true at all. I hear people say all the time their diesel gets mid teens towing and 20 on the highway. Yes they can get 20 on the highway but that pretty rare up here. In AZ I was getting 19-22 all day if i kept it under 70. its flat there.

Towing best I saw was 14 going from Utah to AZ but average was 12-12.5 and in OR its 10-12 depending where I'm going.

Now the Eco i hear the same things that people are getting 20 highway, and mid teens towing. I don't believe it for a second. If I get 17+ highway and 11 towing I'm more then happy as that's the most common mileage I saw in the diesel.

Big difference might be the sheer power I have towing when I want to pass someone or up the mountains. Time will tell.

My diesel was 600hp and 1K torque but only when in street mode, in tow mode it was closer to 400hp and 650 torque due to me running it closer to stock so it wouldn't break.

I'm hoping the Eco with its 365hp and 420 torque and 2K less weight will make up the torque difference.

maxpower220
12-16-2013, 09:33 PM
My best was 21 mpg on HWY, mostly 20.1-20.4. Worst round town has been 17.1. Only towed distance a few times. in the low 13's. All of this in FL, with a direct drive ski boat.

sandm
12-17-2013, 07:31 AM
I hope all the mileage claims on here are not using onboard data but rather the tried and true miles driven off the odo and gallons replaced from a full tank to a full tank. there's enough articles out there from the automotive press world showing those onboard computers are a good guide but not real accurate. mike is thinking real world in his expectations based on what I have read on the eco that ford's claims are not real world but then NO sticker on any vehicle out there are reporting factual data.
I check mine with every fillup in both trucks. my 2k f150 heavyhalf has been turning 12.5-12.8 pretty consistently since I bought it in '07. the '98 ranger 4.0 4x4 I picked up here in wisconsin is turning 16.5 tank to tank. I see people with that engine stating 20. all I have to say is prove it.

mmandley
12-17-2013, 10:37 AM
I hope all the mileage claims on here are not using onboard data but rather the tried and true miles driven off the odo and gallons replaced from a full tank to a full tank. there's enough articles out there from the automotive press world showing those onboard computers are a good guide but not real accurate. mike is thinking real world in his expectations based on what I have read on the eco that ford's claims are not real world but then NO sticker on any vehicle out there are reporting factual data.
I check mine with every fillup in both trucks. my 2k f150 heavyhalf has been turning 12.5-12.8 pretty consistently since I bought it in '07. the '98 ranger 4.0 4x4 I picked up here in wisconsin is turning 16.5 tank to tank. I see people with that engine stating 20. all I have to say is prove it.

Yup my data is hand calculated.

My F350 would pretty consistently read 1.5mpg better then its really getting LOL.

So fare the F150 shows 17.3mpg on its first tank but im still over 1/2 tank at 280 miles which looks pretty decent. I do have a 36 gal tank on this one so we will wait till its empty this Saturday and see how it is when i fill it up.

rdlangston13
12-17-2013, 05:26 PM
I know my 06 half ton Ram tells me I am getting about 2 mpg better than I actually am. It's crazy that they are so far off, I could a .2 mpg discrepancy but 2 mpg! That's over 10%


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bergermaister
12-17-2013, 05:50 PM
I've heard it referred to as the lie-ometer. I hope that's true.

http://www.backroadtravelers.com/images/v10embl.jpg

That's all I gotsta say...

maxpower220
12-17-2013, 06:02 PM
Mine are gal/miles. Some tanks my computer is pretty close (within .5 mpg), sometimes off by 2.

mmandley
12-17-2013, 08:34 PM
Had the truck almost a week now. 330 miles.
Day after i got her.
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After a 2inch lift on the front, tinted windows, and 330 miles of typical winter driving in my area. We use de-icer and ash on the roads and it makes your vechicle looks horrible. Even in the winter I wash my trucks every 2 weeks.

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moombacraze
12-17-2013, 10:31 PM
Mike I'm curious if the front leveling kit effects the ride quality at all? Have you noticed any difference in the ride yet?

rdlangston13
12-17-2013, 10:57 PM
I like the 6.5 ft beds. You add a tool box and still have usable space


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mmandley
12-18-2013, 12:15 PM
Mike I'm curious if the front leveling kit effects the ride quality at all? Have you noticed any difference in the ride yet?

No it hasnt changed it. The kit is just a puck that mounts above the shock so it doesn't change the ride at all. You do have to get the tires aligned.

I got the kit installed and truck aligned for 320 at the local tire shop.

sandm
12-18-2013, 01:40 PM
great looking addons mike...

viking
12-18-2013, 06:55 PM
Not a bad looking rig and always nice to get new digs.............but I could never do it. Will not go back to a gasser truck after having my duramax. A daily driver sedan is the solution for me these winter months.

irish-racing
12-20-2013, 10:59 AM
Nice looking truck.

mmandley
12-24-2013, 10:43 AM
Had to fill up the new truck last Saturday.

odometer showed 550 miles for the first tank, minus 17 since it had that when i bought it.
I was just over the low limit light.

Truck showed apx 60 miles left on the tank,
Tank average was 16.2 on the computer
Shows 16.8 on the instant average computer for the last 10 minutes

32 gallons later, Hand Calc was apx 16.6 mpg.

Surprised the computer was so close, and I like the numbers.
F350 was a solid 15.5 but weighing in at a cool 3K more.

interesting though is the Diesel and the Eco have the same size tank, the most I ever put in the diesel was 32 and that's when the computer said i had 5 miles left.
The Eco still had plenty to go but I was going into Portland and didn't want to look for a station.

Overall after 550 miles I'm real happy with the truck, it rides and drives great. Feels very roomy, has good get up and go.

My one HUGE complaint is the CHEAP TIRES they put on new trucks. OMG these Good Year Wrangler SP-A suck nuts.
The cause the truck to feel unstable in turns at 60 and you can just feel them rolling side to side.

Other then that, and the New Truck Payment I'm looking at I'm pretty happy. Going to need to double down a few payments, then refi this thing to get the new truck payments back to my old truck payments LOL

maxpower220
12-25-2013, 11:09 AM
My gas mileage steadily improved from the first day until about 4500 miles, where is steadied out. You should see some improvement on that.

04OUTBACK
12-25-2013, 11:41 AM
Nice mike! Welcome to Ecoboost.
Now give me Some tips to make me love mine and not go back to a Chevy or GMC :-)
Mine drives great. Tows great but Just a disappointment for mileage
Only way to get posted mpg is 55mph
Drops hard 65+
Who drives 55 except in the city??

Looks great. How long before there are tires and Rims added??

kaneboats
12-25-2013, 08:28 PM
I was hoping Brad would get in on this. It's not all just love on the ecoboost. I have a relative close to buying something and would love to share the full debate on these.

04OUTBACK
12-25-2013, 08:56 PM
I know half my issue is lack of trust and mental due to issues at 4k and 8k miles. I won't trust it post warranty.
I love the torquey acceleration
Truck rides great. I Tried to trade it for a v8 that looked just like mandleys back a month ago. Funny. Dealership offered me $30k for. 12 month old truck with 20k miles. I told them that if the ford dealership thought I should want another if they lose 40% value in 1 year they were crazy. They upped $1k and never chased once after I left. I was shocked.
I will most likely end up with a Chevy or gmc but we'll see.
I do believe there is some intermittent issues with mine. Sometimes it tows awesome. Others not so awesome.

mmandley
12-26-2013, 11:30 AM
Nice mike! Welcome to Ecoboost.
Now give me Some tips to make me love mine and not go back to a Chevy or GMC :-)
Mine drives great. Tows great but Just a disappointment for mileage
Only way to get posted mpg is 55mph
Drops hard 65+
Who drives 55 except in the city??

Looks great. How long before there are tires and Rims added??

I watch my mileage pretty close, I try to keep it under 2K RPMs, once you spool them twin turbos the mileage drops as the power comes on. Only time will tell on how well I keep liking this truck. I was kinda between a rock and a hard place when I sold my Diesel.

I hated to sell it but I just couldn't see sinking thousands into it for oil leaks. I would want to go full bore with studs, EGR deletes, and other upgraded stuff if i was already in that deep. Who knows, maybe in a few years ill be back in a Diesel IDK.

Rims, well I like the Rims for the most part, only thing grey on the truck that matches the boat, and the boat rims are black LOL.

Tires, well so fare GoodYear Wrangle SA-R Suck nuts, I hate them. Not going to replace them just yet but Yes i hate them.

I did a lot of research and talking to other Eco owners I know who tow before i took a sip of the Eco cool-aid. This is one reason why i wanted such a large warranty attached. I have no desire to own a new anything without warranty.

Wish the Vette had a warranty sometimes LOL. After the opti-spark, water pump, fuel pump issues and now to find out the heater core is 3/4 clogged. I would have made money on that real fast LOL. Not complaining though because to drive the car sure puts a smile on my face.

Mikey
12-26-2013, 04:32 PM
Mike welcome to the Ecoboost club. As many like and some dislike there trucks i am glad to say my truck is still awesome. Two glitches, one to be fixed next week is a buzzing door speaker,and no i do not intend to replace them with Exile or whatever at the moment, warranty will cover this. The other as you kinda touch on is tires.

I opted for the 20'' rims with the Pirelli all season tires. These bar non are the worst ,factory all season tires we have had,This is truck number 5 and all have been ok or decent in snow, with some weight and using 4x4 at times except for these. I/we did not feel confident at all in snow to the point i would not even dream of going to a ski hill etc. This year i bought some steel factory 17'' rims with some Hankook SNOW tires and it is Night and day difference. After reading more about the Pirelli tires likely after another summer season , i will be looking at different tires all together.

As for the gas milleage, yes the Ecoboost doesn't get what they claim.... They all Lie, doesn't matter what the brand ,BUT i did notice at around 250000 KM my truck loosened up and i average about 1,2 MPG better, again depending on driving.

As for pulling, i have a smaller ,lighter Outback DD but it easily pulls this with plenty of power to spare. When pulling in mountain passes etc, I like little cars take full advantage of passing lanes etc, FLYING past others and essentially having very little trouble keeping up to normal traffic etc.
I'm still contemplating the power upgrade up to 50HP and 200ftlbs , but have yet to pull the trigger on this. A local shop does this and DYNO verifys there numbers but its a pricey touch for them as its just under 2K . Then there are still the warranty issues??? Some say yes , some say no and i can use the install shops 1 year warranty for this as well......This shop speciallizes in Blower upgrades but to make Turbo guys happy they offer some stuff for us as well. Many major speed shops and Car companys offer this but rarely do they road test and or Dyno tune as well and DYNO verify.. Anyways Nice looking truck and looking forward to hear your take on truck upgrades etc.

moombadaze
12-26-2013, 06:27 PM
Tires, well so fare GoodYear Wrangle SA-R Suck nuts, I hate them. Not going to replace them just yet but Yes i hate them.
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pretty sure that's the same tire on my ram, they do suck. Used to have 35" toyo mud ta's on my last truck-felt like it was on truck rails, could take the freeway off ramp at 60mph, now these stockers and I can barely do 54 without feeling like the sidewalls are folding over.

mmandley
12-27-2013, 12:20 PM
Mike welcome to the Ecoboost club. As many like and some dislike there trucks i am glad to say my truck is still awesome. Two glitches, one to be fixed next week is a buzzing door speaker,and no i do not intend to replace them with Exile or whatever at the moment, warranty will cover this. The other as you kinda touch on is tires.

I opted for the 20'' rims with the Pirelli all season tires. These bar non are the worst ,factory all season tires we have had,This is truck number 5 and all have been ok or decent in snow, with some weight and using 4x4 at times except for these. I/we did not feel confident at all in snow to the point i would not even dream of going to a ski hill etc. This year i bought some steel factory 17'' rims with some Hankook SNOW tires and it is Night and day difference. After reading more about the Pirelli tires likely after another summer season , i will be looking at different tires all together.

As for the gas milleage, yes the Ecoboost doesn't get what they claim.... They all Lie, doesn't matter what the brand ,BUT i did notice at around 250000 KM my truck loosened up and i average about 1,2 MPG better, again depending on driving.

As for pulling, i have a smaller ,lighter Outback DD but it easily pulls this with plenty of power to spare. When pulling in mountain passes etc, I like little cars take full advantage of passing lanes etc, FLYING past others and essentially having very little trouble keeping up to normal traffic etc.
I'm still contemplating the power upgrade up to 50HP and 200ftlbs , but have yet to pull the trigger on this. A local shop does this and DYNO verifys there numbers but its a pricey touch for them as its just under 2K . Then there are still the warranty issues??? Some say yes , some say no and i can use the install shops 1 year warranty for this as well......This shop speciallizes in Blower upgrades but to make Turbo guys happy they offer some stuff for us as well. Many major speed shops and Car companys offer this but rarely do they road test and or Dyno tune as well and DYNO verify.. Anyways Nice looking truck and looking forward to hear your take on truck upgrades etc.

I have warranty on my speakers too so no plans to upgrade them to Exiles LOL.

I have heard some things about the power adders for the truck but since its new, and has an extensive extended warranty I doubt I do any upgrades unless the dealer is ok with it. Some companies the dealers let you use because they are Ford certified, like Roush, but I haven't looked into it to much as of yet.

Moombadaze I'm with you on the tire difference. After having the E tires on the F350 these feel squishy. The good thing is I was at the dealer yesterday to get the PNW package <clear coat hardener, and interior treatment they had a 14 FX4 like mine with 20s, a 4 inch lift, and big all season BFs and Claudia gave me the thumbs up. So that might be in the future but doubt it will be a 14 upgrade.

I really have to rebuild the savings account after the wedding and AZ trip drained it.

This year is mostly a maintain and save year.

rdlangston13
12-27-2013, 02:55 PM
There is so much that goes into fuel consumption. Is there a head wind? Are you driving in hills? Stop and go traffic? Any type of lift/leveling kit will reduce mileage. How you drive plays a big role, there are so many variables on individual mileage it's hard for everyone to get the same.

That being said the new Chevy may get better mileage but to achieve the "best in class fuel mileage" you are making some HEAVY sacrifices. You end up with a 5.3 L V8 with like 3.06 gear and a max towing capacity of like 6,000 lbs and it's an absolute dog.

Of all the half ton engine options the ecoboost is still the best combination of towing power and fuel mileage.

Look of TFL truck, they do real world testing of the major trucks going up the Ike gauntlet is Colorado. They recently just mashed up the new silverado with the 6.2, the ford ecoboost, and a Nisan Titan and hooked them to a 10,000 lb trailer and ran them up and down the hill. The ford posted the best time up however the Chevy 6.2 did very well on the down hill with its engine braking. (The measure rotor temps at the bottom)

I am one of those people who says so what if you have a few problems, that's what the warranty is for. Most major malfunctions will be found before the warranty expires and be fixed, that's what warranties are for.



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mmandley
12-28-2013, 09:12 AM
There is so much that goes into fuel consumption. Is there a head wind? Are you driving in hills? Stop and go traffic? Any type of lift/leveling kit will reduce mileage. How you drive plays a big role, there are so many variables on individual mileage it's hard for everyone to get the same.

That being said the new Chevy may get better mileage but to achieve the "best in class fuel mileage" you are making some HEAVY sacrifices. You end up with a 5.3 L V8 with like 3.06 gear and a max towing capacity of like 6,000 lbs and it's an absolute dog.

Of all the half ton engine options the ecoboost is still the best combination of towing power and fuel mileage.

Look of TFL truck, they do real world testing of the major trucks going up the Ike gauntlet is Colorado. They recently just mashed up the new silverado with the 6.2, the ford ecoboost, and a Nisan Titan and hooked them to a 10,000 lb trailer and ran them up and down the hill. The ford posted the best time up however the Chevy 6.2 did very well on the down hill with its engine braking. (The measure rotor temps at the bottom)

I am one of those people who says so what if you have a few problems, that's what the warranty is for. Most major malfunctions will be found before the warranty expires and be fixed, that's what warranties are for.



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I watched those comparisons too but I saw a different view of what happened.

The uphill climb is a Farce. Think about it, they are going a Predetermined distance with a max speed of 60mph. All the Ecoboost won was accelerating up to 60. once your at 60 the distance of the climb is the same. I found that test to not make any of the 3 look good or bad.

The braking going downhill, well the trailer was different temps each truck, and when the Eco pulled it the temps were like 118 which tells me the trailer didn't brake at all really. The Eco did it all. What I did like is the Eco had similar brake temps at all four wheels showing it really is balancing the braking power.

Don't get me wrong, I want the Eco to be the best but I think that uphill test would have been better proven if they compared RPM, Throttle position, and Acceleration times with a Load from 0-60. Then you are really testing the pulling of the truck. Showing its torque for acceleration, how hard the engine is working by its throttle position and RPM.

I agree with you Dave on the mileage, its all relative your environment. No different then my exact same truck gets 3mpg better in AZ then in OR, its because its a lot flatter there LOL.

rdlangston13
12-28-2013, 09:17 AM
I watched those comparisons too but I saw a different view of what happened.

The uphill climb is a Farce. Think about it, they are going a Predetermined distance with a max speed of 60mph. All the Ecoboost won was accelerating up to 60. once your at 60 the distance of the climb is the same. I found that test to not make any of the 3 look good or bad.

The braking going downhill, well the trailer was different temps each truck, and when the Eco pulled it the temps were like 118 which tells me the trailer didn't brake at all really. The Eco did it all. What I did like is the Eco had similar brake temps at all four wheels showing it really is balancing the braking power.

Don't get me wrong, I want the Eco to be the best but I think that uphill test would have been better proven if they compared RPM, Throttle position, and Acceleration times with a Load from 0-60. Then you are really testing the pulling of the truck. Showing its torque for acceleration, how hard the engine is working by its throttle position and RPM.

I agree with you Dave on the mileage, its all relative your environment. No different then my exact same truck gets 3mpg better in AZ then in OR, its because its a lot flatter there LOL.

They did have a a max speed on the uphill climb that's true, but the ecoboost was the only one that was capable of maintaining that speed. All the other half tons dipped below 60 at full throttle at some point in the climb with some even dropping to as low as 45 mph. And with the trailer brakes it seemed like they didn't even have them on for any truck or had the gains set to low because none where ever much over 100 and you have to think most if not all of that heat is just from the wheel turning.


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mmandley
12-28-2013, 11:40 AM
They did have a a max speed on the uphill climb that's true, but the ecoboost was the only one that was capable of maintaining that speed. All the other half tons dipped below 60 at full throttle at some point in the climb with some even dropping to as low as 45 mph. And with the trailer brakes it seemed like they didn't even have them on for any truck or had the gains set to low because none where ever much over 100 and you have to think most if not all of that heat is just from the wheel turning.


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I musta missed the part of the trucks slowing down LOL. I agree with the trailer brakes. Trust me I'm happy the Eco did so well. I would be perfectly happy knowing the truck can maintain control and stop a 6K trailer with no brakes. This is one of the main reasons why I don't always agree with my truck can tow 5K so its ok to tow a 4500lb boat. The question to me is, can it stop safely and maintain control of that trailer when it has no brakes.

BensonWdby
12-28-2013, 12:26 PM
I went the other way. Just bought a 201 Rav4 Sport with a V6. Only rated for 3500. I pull my boat about 20 miles per year unless I need to bring it to the dealer. Then about another 60 miles.

The rest of the time I plan to use it in the winter for the AWD. Traded in my p.o.s. 2001 Durango V8. Really like it in snow. And way better mileage.

mmandley
12-28-2013, 01:38 PM
I went the other way. Just bought a 201 Rav4 Sport with a V6. Only rated for 3500. I pull my boat about 20 miles per year unless I need to bring it to the dealer. Then about another 60 miles.

The rest of the time I plan to use it in the winter for the AWD. Traded in my p.o.s. 2001 Durango V8. Really like it in snow. And way better mileage.

Nice, in your case you can do that lol. I tow 15-20 miles each way on the short trips. I think last summer, other then the trip to AZ which was just over 5K and prolly 3500 on the trailer we generally put 2-3K on the trailer.

C.Hern5972
01-02-2014, 11:31 AM
Nice ride for sure man. I love mine so far. I have the scorlion a\s tires and they have not been bad tires.

Mikey
01-02-2014, 06:10 PM
Chris i'm glad you like your truck, I love mine but looking at your location you likely don,t have nearly the same issues with the tires as i/ we in snowy places have.They may be A/S tires but when it came to the Winter/cold part of those tires that is where they are/were an epic fail. For summer tires they are ok and i will use mine again then replace...

mmandley
01-03-2014, 09:06 AM
Just filled her up for the second time, just shy of 1200 miles now.

Last night was 566 on the trip and 33.5 gallons to fill it. Making it 16.8

Truck's computer is surprising close on mileage and fuel used.
Truck said Mileage was 17.1 hand calc 16.8
Truck said i used 32.6 gallons Took 33.5 with topping it to the dollar.

Pretty happy with driving the truck still, did a few spirited passing runs on ole HW47 and she gets up and goes from 40 to 80. You can feel the turbos boost up and the power roll on.

Still not as fast as the F350 or seat of the pants fast with the power it had.

Course if the F150 had something other then factory exhaust so you could get a little sound with that seat of the pants feeling then mentally it might feel different.

The Eco has no exhaust sound at all in the truck, when you full throttle it if the stereo is turned down low you get some engine growl but thats it really.

I do miss the roar of the F350's straight exhaust and the whine, and blow off sounds of the F350s twin turbos.

I'm time I will have to upgrade to a CAI and exhaust just for sound reasons LOL.

Time to take the ole Vette for a ride, with its Cat and Resonator only exhaust, she has a nice deep rumble and when you stomp that skinny pedal ...She Gone!

C.Hern5972
01-03-2014, 09:55 AM
Chris i'm glad you like your truck, I love mine but looking at your location you likely don,t have nearly the same issues with the tires as i/ we in snowy places have.They may be A/S tires but when it came to the Winter/cold part of those tires that is where they are/were an epic fail. For summer tires they are ok and i will use mine again then replace...


Yeah man i just noticed you are from the cold country. Id definately upgrade the tires and can relate

C.Hern5972
01-03-2014, 09:57 AM
Just filled her up for the second time, just shy of 1200 miles now.

Last night was 566 on the trip and 33.5 gallons to fill it. Making it 16.8

Truck's computer is surprising close on mileage and fuel used.
Truck said Mileage was 17.1 hand calc 16.8
Truck said i used 32.6 gallons Took 33.5 with topping it to the dollar.

Pretty happy with driving the truck still, did a few spirited passing runs on ole HW47 and she gets up and goes from 40 to 80. You can feel the turbos boost up and the power roll on.

Still not as fast as the F350 or seat of the pants fast with the power it had.

Course if the F150 had something other then factory exhaust so you could get a little sound with that seat of the pants feeling then mentally it might feel different.

The Eco has no exhaust sound at all in the truck, when you full throttle it if the stereo is turned down low you get some engine growl but thats it really.

I do miss the roar of the F350's straight exhaust and the whine, and blow off sounds of the F350s twin turbos.

I'm time I will have to upgrade to a CAI and exhaust just for sound reasons LOL.

Time to take the ole Vette for a ride, with its Cat and Resonator only exhaust, she has a nice deep rumble and when you stomp that skinny pedal ...She Gone!


I calculated mine and it was fairly colse to the lie o meter. I have a few buds with these trucks. Some have done the exhaust, CAI-difference in milage, some have exhaust, CAI, livernoise tune- woke it up on 89 tune but really no big difference in milage.

mmandley
01-03-2014, 11:52 AM
I calculated mine and it was fairly colse to the lie o meter. I have a few buds with these trucks. Some have done the exhaust, CAI-difference in milage, some have exhaust, CAI, livernoise tune- woke it up on 89 tune but really no big difference in milage.

Yea when if and when I do the exhaust and CAI as long as I'm not losing mileage then I'm ok, just want to hear a little more grunt from the truck when I push her a bit lol.

Mikey
01-03-2014, 06:14 PM
I've been doing a little research and i have a a buddy at a muffler shop.I am led to believe there can and is quite a variety of sound levels that can be had with basically the same power results .....But some have a terrible DRONE which if lots of continous ie highway driving is involved may be a real nuisance . Especially if you have others(kids) in the back seat..

Also the different quility levels and materials, Some use Aluminum ,but for me i want stainless as we have a harsh roadsalt environment to deal with in winters. Prices vary i'm leaning toward a Corsa set up , but of course one of the most expensive options,especially up here.

Sadly car/truck parts are astronomically priced on many items vrs shopping for stuff in USA. You guys down south have a big advantage,price wise especially when it comes to aftermarket prices. I'm tempted next Holiday to have a few upgrades down while down south but its nice to have done locallly or at home in case there are issues that need to be rectified and i hate to spoil a holiday running around if there are after issues...


Really depends what you want and expect especially on the exhuast, only a few options on CAI to fit the Ecoboost and quite a variety of tuners....

powerstroke99
01-11-2014, 02:13 AM
Nice Truck!! I have a 12' ecoboost and love it! One thing i might recommend doing since you added the leveling kit like i did is also adding a rear add-leaf to the back so when your towing your boat you dont sit nose high.. there dirt cheap and add almost 900lbs extra payload. When i hook our 07' XLV to the back it sits perfectly level and when towing i feel it has plenty of power when I step in down on the interstate to pass those little gas saving cars! :) We have had ours for a year now and no problems/complaints yet! Get about 11/12mpg on a no wind situation going 75mph.. warmer weather/more broken in motor seems to help on those mpg too (we are at 25K on the truck) from what i can tell as the time goes on, but everyone has there claim to fame mpg of there truck haha.. Only known problems my uncle has told me about these trucks as he works at ford dealer as a mechanic is they have intercooler issues still which is hit or miss.

mmandley
01-11-2014, 11:26 AM
Nice Truck!! I have a 12' ecoboost and love it! One thing i might recommend doing since you added the leveling kit like i did is also adding a rear add-leaf to the back so when your towing your boat you dont sit nose high.. there dirt cheap and add almost 900lbs extra payload. When i hook our 07' XLV to the back it sits perfectly level and when towing i feel it has plenty of power when I step in down on the interstate to pass those little gas saving cars! :) We have had ours for a year now and no problems/complaints yet! Get about 11/12mpg on a no wind situation going 75mph.. warmer weather/more broken in motor seems to help on those mpg too (we are at 25K on the truck) from what i can tell as the time goes on, but everyone has there claim to fame mpg of there truck haha.. Only known problems my uncle has told me about these trucks as he works at ford dealer as a mechanic is they have intercooler issues still which is hit or miss.

Great info, I'll look into the add a leaf. I normally go Air Bags but I'll look into it.

I did hook the Mojo up to it the other day just to see about the drop, I was expecting 3-4 inches but it only droped 2. Pretty surprised. I do have to get something for the rear though as lifting the front I had to re-aim my HIDs, and if I put the boat on then I will be blinding people again lol.

mmandley
01-17-2014, 09:12 AM
Last real update till I tow with the truck. Just filled her up again last night.

581 miles to the tank, 33 gal. 17.5 mpg
Truck said i used 33.5 gal and was getting 17.8 for the tank.

I have to say I have stepped into her a few times and she does get up and go. Case in point rolling 30mph punch it and the rear end will break lose and spin. Also rolling 40mph and it will break lose. Some of this might be the cheap factory tires but it does show this truck is making some torque. As fare as driving the truck, its a real pleasure.

I have decided to go with the Roadmaster active suspension this time.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ras-4611/overview/

freshturk
01-17-2014, 10:55 AM
ive had my '13 fx4, quad cab, 5.5ft bed, 3.7 since april and I havnt seen anything close to the mileage you're getting. When it was stock i would average mid-15s on mixed highway/city and never really saw much of an improvement on solely highway. Now with the level and 33s, the computer tells me 13.5-14.1 mixed without the chip being reflashed to accomodate the larger tire size so in reality its prolly 0.5mpg better. Towing from Ohio to NC through the hills of WV, i averaged 10.5 with the bigger tires. Overall like everyone else has said, it tows about as good as it gets for a gasser, but unfortunately i have not seen the mpg that others have posted. I drive like a grandma too.

mmandley
01-17-2014, 11:40 AM
ive had my '13 fx4, quad cab, 5.5ft bed, 3.7 since april and I havnt seen anything close to the mileage you're getting. When it was stock i would average mid-15s on mixed highway/city and never really saw much of an improvement on solely highway. Now with the level and 33s, the computer tells me 13.5-14.1 mixed without the chip being reflashed to accomodate the larger tire size so in reality its prolly 0.5mpg better. Towing from Ohio to NC through the hills of WV, i averaged 10.5 with the bigger tires. Overall like everyone else has said, it tows about as good as it gets for a gasser, but unfortunately i have not seen the mpg that others have posted. I drive like a grandma too.

I hear ya man, unfortunatly like you say, MPG is relative to area, and driving conditions. I do drive it pretty easy most of the time. I rarely go over 2K rpm and the stretch i drive to work is 55 and relativly flat. I have 20 miles 55 with 2 slow down to 30 sections for 1/2 mile. Then 8 miles city 30-45 mph area, lots of traffic lights but they are timed so I eighter hit none, or 1.

I really haven't had her up on the Highway 60+ yet. I have 1700 miles now.

I did see a slight drop .3-.5mpg drop when i lifted the front but I am still running the 18 all terrain tires. I would expect a drop when I upgrade to 33BF or Toyo Country's once these are worn out.

I am seeing a 2mpg increase across the board compared to the F350. Nice gain and with the price difference in Diesel to Unleaded here I'm saving about 20 bucks a tank plus gaining 100 miles per tank.

wolfeman131
01-17-2014, 03:20 PM
I'm guessing you've already seen this:

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-detroit-auto-show-ford-truck-20140112,0,1291156.story#axzz2qgmSpqLb

kaneboats
01-18-2014, 01:33 AM
Shoot, we all need to make sure we drink canned beer instead of bottled from here on out to support this American company! Say yes to Aluminum.

04OUTBACK
01-18-2014, 07:17 AM
Sorry. Had to:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/18/be6u2egu.jpg

mmandley
01-18-2014, 10:57 AM
I'm guessing you've already seen this:

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-detroit-auto-show-ford-truck-20140112,0,1291156.story#axzz2qgmSpqLb

Yes I've seen it, on the fence about the styling of the front end.

Bradd its all good brutha.

I guess since I have owned, the 6 oh no, the 6.4 and now an Eco, I am qualified to jerk myself off. Thank You.

04OUTBACK
01-18-2014, 12:20 PM
Sorry mandley. Just had to. :-)

mmandley
01-18-2014, 04:36 PM
Sorry mandley. Just had to. :-)

Just admit it, you really sold your Eco because you didn't want to meet again like that this year in Texas LOL.

04OUTBACK
01-20-2014, 11:06 AM
Hahahaha. So true !!

beat taco
01-31-2014, 07:44 PM
Well I drove a 6.0 excursion at the dealership and looks like I am about to pull the trigger on an Ecoboost. Completely random since I wanted a diesel.

mmandley
01-31-2014, 10:15 PM
Well I drove a 6.0 excursion at the dealership and looks like I am about to pull the trigger on an Ecoboost. Completely random since I wanted a diesel.

Hate to say it but I'd take the Eco over the 6.0 anyday. 6.0 comes with a lot of baggage.

beat taco
01-31-2014, 10:48 PM
They enticed me with a great deal on a 13 xlt and I really don't want to have reliability concerns. I still would love that big diesel, it was loaded with four captain chairs and 70k miles.

Went back tonight, looks like a long bed crew cab FX4 Eco so much for not breaking the bank! It better tow as good as my big block burb! We are trading in our Pilot and Suburban for it.

Mikey
01-31-2014, 11:03 PM
I'm pretty sure you will like the way it pulls. I kinda compare the torque the Eco boost produces to be similar in the way my dads old 84 Big block chev used to pull. Lots of grunt, easily pulled the boat at highway speeds and hills , etc were no probs. Big difference was that truck ,got between 8,10 mpg, on a good day, compared to anywhere from 14 up to maybe 16. depending on circumstances of course.

I tend to drive heavy foot and use what ever power i have when it comes to hills etc and ECOBOOST has not disappointed.

moombacraze
01-31-2014, 11:06 PM
I have decided to go with the Roadmaster active suspension this time.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ras-4611/overview/

Mike, let me know how you like the Roadmaster suspension. I have been thinking about going that route.

beat taco
02-01-2014, 12:19 AM
I'm pretty sure you will like the way it pulls. I kinda compare the torque the Eco boost produces to be similar in the way my dads old 84 Big block chev used to pull. Lots of grunt, easily pulled the boat at highway speeds and hills , etc were no probs. Big difference was that truck ,got between 8,10 mpg, on a good day, compared to anywhere from 14 up to maybe 16. depending on circumstances of course.

I tend to drive heavy foot and use what ever power i have when it comes to hills etc and ECOBOOST has not disappointed.


Good to hear. While I did get 13.6 in the burb once, I plant my right foot and get 10-12 loaded or not. But going from a 7.4 to a 3.5 that has slightly more power is pretty crazy. Guess I can't wait to join the ford club.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/01/e5enupyp.jpg

mmandley
02-01-2014, 09:20 AM
I felt the same as you Jake turning over the keys to my 6.4 for a 3.5. So fare driving in town is a pleasure again, parking is so much easier again.

Power seems spot on for the truck so fare. i have noticed a few times i get turbo lag when say slowing down for a light, then it changes and i go to accelerate and the truck is either down shifting or something but you get a lag in power. Both my diesels would do this as well.

Something to put your mind at ease is the 6.0 is 325hp and 570 torque stock. Plus add that the Excusion weighs in at almost 8K lbs.

The Eco weighs in closer to 6K so 2K weight and only 150 torque less is what helps the Eco stand out.

Power band is very similar in that a 6.0 likes 1600-2200 for max torque and the Eco is 2200-4500 max torque in its RPM range.

I still haven't towed with it but so fare I really have no regrets as a daily driver.

beat taco
02-02-2014, 05:11 PM
I looked at that flat torque curve and really liked it.

Just picked it up.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/03/va9atudy.jpg

maxpower220
02-02-2014, 09:36 PM
We don't often get snow/ice in FL, but my F150 really impressed me on how well the traction control/ABS worked. I "attempted" to have fun on the ice, but TC worked really well. For all of the bad press the stock Goodyear tires get on here, I have been impressed with them. They did well in the icy conditions too.

Mikey
02-03-2014, 09:23 PM
All 4 of my other trucks had Goodyears on them . All Season tires. While they are not a Great tire by any means, They were far and away better in the Cold than the Pirelli All seasons i have now. This is the first truck of 5 that i have actually put TRUE winter tires on. Due to the severe lack of confidence the Pirellis provide.


These tire are Ok in summer, and after one more season of summer driving, the Pirellis will Go BYE BYE and i will research and find a Good All season set of tires to replace with.

After now having true winter tires though i likely will continue using these and more in the future. As Max mentioned though TC Does work well if the rear gets a little loose, weather it be intentional or not.

bergermaister
02-03-2014, 09:37 PM
and i will research and find a Good All season set of tires to replace with.


Can't speak to other GY tires but have a look at Goodyear Duratacs. May sway your opinion. Had them on my 1/2 ton and absolutely loved them. Winter rated as well.

beat taco
02-03-2014, 10:45 PM
I had the Kelly TSR's on my suburban which share the see same carcass as the Duratrac with a slightly different tread pattern and loved them (just got a deal on the Kelly's or I would have got GY)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/04/y9uza9av.jpg

Mikey
02-05-2014, 04:39 PM
Sadly for us , some of these Off brands are not always available to us Canadians. There are a few brands you get that we don,t and our pricing is ususally quite a bit higher. A brand i like is Cooper , but they are hard to find. You luckily have a MUCH better selection and prices when it come to tires. When the time truely comes, i may come south and pick up new tires ,while on holidays , but for replacement issues i will likely try to find a brand that possibly is available here as well, just in case i have a blowout or something and want to try to match brands etc.

Even paying Duty etc, buying tires down there is likely cheeper than buying up here.....

beat taco
02-05-2014, 06:15 PM
Couple of pics from the tint shop
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/06/yhejy2u7.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/06/bu7a6eme.jpg

bergermaister
02-05-2014, 06:28 PM
Damn - looking nice Jake! I may have to look into the blackout tail lights - sharp with that charcoal gray.

kaneboats
02-06-2014, 09:50 AM
Sadly for us , some of these Off brands are not always available to us Canadians. There are a few brands you get that we don,t and our pricing is ususally quite a bit higher. A brand i like is Cooper , but they are hard to find. You luckily have a MUCH better selection and prices when it come to tires. When the time truely comes, i may come south and pick up new tires ,while on holidays , but for replacement issues i will likely try to find a brand that possibly is available here as well, just in case i have a blowout or something and want to try to match brands etc.

Even paying Duty etc, buying tires down there is likely cheeper than buying up here.....


I get almost all my tires here these days. Used to mount and balance myself but lately I've been taking them in. I don't have the old snap on wheel balancer anymore.

http://www.tirerack.com/

shipping FAQ page: http://www.tirerack.com/FAQ/results.jsp?category=Shipping

sandm
02-06-2014, 11:53 AM
I put some yokohama geolanders on the ford 4 years ago. I love them. granted I don't drive the truck much(500 miles in the last 6 months) but they have around 10k on them and have shown no wear and, although they are 10ply, no flex when towing. I was supposed to get coopers but the shop had these instock and offered them for $725. I'm more than happy and will shop yoko again when I need them.

kaneboats
02-06-2014, 12:37 PM
Put some of those on my Isuzu Ascender (same as Trailblazer and Envoy) I used to have. They were very good. If you like them look at Discounttireonline, I think, or ebay's Discount Tire sales. They have these a lot and always have free shipping. It's a deal maker for me when they do that.

mmandley
02-06-2014, 03:15 PM
I like to use Toyo Open Country AT tires, they wear real nice, they get great snow traction, and they are 10 ply side wall tow rated tired.

Mikey
02-06-2014, 10:24 PM
I've thought about going online , but sadly next to none offer free shipping to us up North. Then as i mentioned if i pick a brand thats not easily available and i have a blowout, then i'm kinda screwed if i want to match up for a repair etc.

You guys in the south have a huge advantage, selection, price wise over us Northerners . Not just on tires but on automotive on a whole, plus many other products sadly...

Beer, groceries , you name it. Although , our beer is usually more money, sometimes its worth the extra cash. haha

zabooda
02-07-2014, 03:12 PM
I like to use Toyo Open Country AT tires, they wear real nice, they get great snow traction, and they are 10 ply side wall tow rated tired.

X2. [10 charactors]

beat taco
02-08-2014, 05:38 PM
Best handling vehicle I have ever driven in the snow period.

mmandley
02-08-2014, 10:02 PM
Best handling vehicle I have ever driven in the snow period.

I have to say I'm quite impressed with the truck after driving it 200 miles in the snow week.

With 4H on and the rear axle lock mode on it doesn't slide at all.
I love the auto locking rear axle, below 20 it engages and from a stop I get no slipping or sliding on the snow/ice pack.

At home the street is all up hill, not real steep but the plow doesn't come up the street, it is 8inches deep and then you have all the ruts and tracks from other people.

Even with the Good Year ST-A street tires it has done awesome.

Ford really seemed to put some time into the Traction control, 4x4 and locking rear axle.

beat taco
02-09-2014, 04:47 PM
Test confirms my findings.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJI0tLMVpI#

And that one doesn't even have the locker. I ran 2wd with the locker engaged and was amazed. I had to find really steep hills to need 4wd. Tried the hill descent and It seems like the shift assist that holds the vehicle on a steep grade is automatic? Because on steep hills I could stop, shit to reverse and the truck wouldn't roll forward when going from brake to gas.
I found neighborhoods that no cars had ventured in or out of and had zero problems even driving slow, stopping, and starting just to make it more difficult. I had a lot of time on my hands to screw around while my neighbors F350 on 37's had to back down the hill numerous times after he couldn't get up only to fail and take a couple of tries to get out the easier way.
Deep snow would be another story but for 90% of my snow driving this makes anything else I've ever driven obsolete.

bergermaister
02-09-2014, 10:52 PM
, shit to reverse

Hope you got leather seats... ;)

beat taco
02-10-2014, 12:32 AM
Self cleaning ones!

beat taco
02-10-2014, 07:26 PM
Good fuel economy my ass
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/11/yretahen.jpg

jpetty3023
02-10-2014, 08:08 PM
ouch, my lifted Chevy on 35's gets better than that


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uniwarking
02-10-2014, 08:22 PM
Good fuel economy my ass
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/11/yretahen.jpg

Lol, give it some time. My average mileage over the course of 40k+ miles is 16. This includes in town, highway, towing, idle warming, etc. I've not reset one of my trip meters since about a few hundred miles after I bought it.

Yours is very low miles so it's barely broken in, also I assume you're in cooler temps right now which certainly doesn't help.

It rarely gets 22 mpg... Have to be going ~60 on a flat with no wind and no load... With that said it gets good milage and has the torque of the 6.2L when you need it. The EcoBoost is a beast.


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mmandley
02-11-2014, 01:58 PM
Come on now Jake, tell the truth man, you have had lots of Idleing LOL.

I have also noticed if I buy the super cheap fuel it gets less mileage. I tend to use Fred Meyer 87 in the truck. I use Fred Meyer or Chevron 91 in the vette

Anyhow it gets better.
Actual gallons used where 33.8 and actual MPG was 16.7 but I'm impressed because almost half that tank was in 4x4 and snow traffic.

Not the best pic flash glare LOL.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/20140210_182736_zpsirjvvv6z.jpeg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/20140210_182736_zpsirjvvv6z.jpeg.html)

beat taco
02-11-2014, 08:10 PM
What does ford say? Go Further? My ass.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/12/pahude9a.jpg

jpetty3023
02-11-2014, 08:15 PM
oh no! not been the best experience huh jake. hate to see this


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uniwarking
02-11-2014, 08:29 PM
Must have been built in a Monday or Friday LOL! Honestly, mine has been problem free :) hopefully things get better for you... By the way.... Ease of of the vitamin S if you're breaking your truck trying to open it!


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mmandley
02-11-2014, 08:50 PM
Dam bro, You gotta be easier on your rig LOL.

On a side note, I let Claudia drive mine to work yesterday due to the weather, she took the pic of the computer I posted.

Today I get in to go to the store, intermittent wipers, and low wipers don't work.

Dealer visit Monday.

I checked fuses and everything looks good. I told her shes not allowed to drive my truck if she is going to break stuff LOL.

beat taco
02-11-2014, 09:09 PM
I might as well get my relationship started with the service writer LOL. I figure I will demand a loaner until it's fixed since I refuse to drive it looking so hideous. I will make sure to mention the horrendous fuel mileage as well lol. I've never had a warranty this is awesome!

jpetty3023
02-12-2014, 08:46 AM
bring him a 12 pack of beer at closing time and you'll always be his/her #1


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beat taco
02-18-2014, 11:11 AM
bring him a 12 pack of beer at closing time and you'll always be his/her #1


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I will have to take your advice! My first experience went badly, the service writer told me it would have to go to their body shop but it was closed. I guess it's five miles away from the dealership but he offered me no address or phone number, I explained the handle felt flimsy and he was unwilling to step out of his booth and look at it.
I guess they have plenty of business.

mmandley
02-25-2014, 06:54 PM
Finally had a reason to tow with the Eco Boost today. Took Beastia down to AWS to get a few things looked over. Towed axp 80 miles round trip.

Averaged around 9.4mpg which is about what i expected seeing the area i was driving. More city then highway.

Hooked up the boat and got a considerable drop on the rear end. Nearly 4 inches and that's with the Tow package. I haven't got the active suspension installed yet so I expect that to take a lot of the drop out.

Ride wise, with the 4inch drop the truck just felt lower to the ground then I like but I got used to it.

Power wise on the drive to AWS it felt slightly slower then I expected. It wasn't having a problem towing, I think its just the last 4 years I towed with a Diesel and now I'm not. Also i am pretty easy on my throttle to conserve fuel since I do drive so much. When I stepped into the throttle response was good and the truck did move really well.

On the drive home from AWS I noticed the truck had a lot more power, or felt like it did, I think this was just be getting used to the amount of throttle I needed with the boat behind the truck. Over all the mileage was 9.3 and when I was on the highway she was hovering around 12-13 on the dash meter.

I realistically think the truck will settle right into 11 mpg towing long distance and other then the low riding height of the rear end I am happy to say I enjoyed towing with the Eco.

I'm waiting for another buddy to install his Active Suspension on his Eco so I can see what kinda of rear end drop he gets with his boat, then I can really make the choice if i want to invest in the Active Suspension or go with my traditional air bag set up.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/IMAG0009_zps5lkv60gn.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/IMAG0009_zps5lkv60gn.jpg.html)

maxpower220
02-25-2014, 09:24 PM
Just towed my boat from Tampa to Pensacola. Headwind and 65-70 mph for 463 miles and avg 12.9 mpg. Not too bad and no worse than my 5.3 Avalanche on the same route.

kaneboats
02-25-2014, 09:47 PM
Mike, do you think the ECM or whatever it has ajusted itself after the first tow and was a little more ready to go for the tow home?

mmandley
02-26-2014, 12:14 PM
Mike, do you think the ECM or whatever it has ajusted itself after the first tow and was a little more ready to go for the tow home?

Thats very possible. After I hooked the boat up, I was able to create a profile for the trailer. Name it, preset the electric brake gain <don't need that> and some other parameters. It also tracks the miles I pull the trailer in a seperate Trip counter. Pretty cool.

I know the F350 trans would relearn on its own to your driving style over time. Or you could reflash it with the on board tuner I ran.

With the F150 I don't know how it works exactly as I haven't read into it yet. I wouldn't be surprised if the truck learns my driving style and adjusts its shifting and such to it. I know on my way home from AWS it seemed like a lot more power was on hand and I didn't notice the boat behind me as much.

My only complaint at the moment is my weight distribution hitch that has my rock guard on it won't work on the F150. The truck sits to low and the guards drag.

I bought a new reciever for the F150 for now but its loose and sloppy sounding in the hitch. Always clunking, that is going to have to be fixed LOL.

kaneboats
02-26-2014, 12:55 PM
I bought a new reciever for the F150 for now but its loose and sloppy sounding in the hitch. Always clunking, that is going to have to be fixed LOL.

I know the fix for that:

19334

The stuff has so many uses:

19335

uniwarking
02-26-2014, 01:06 PM
Mike, were you running your Eco in Tow/Haul mode?

I have the same truck and boat and I don't think I get that much drop on mine (I'll have to take a close look when I get it out next month). I use a receiver with a 3/4" rise.


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mmandley
02-26-2014, 01:50 PM
Mike, were you running your Eco in Tow/Haul mode?

I have the same truck and boat and I don't think I get that much drop on mine (I'll have to take a close look when I get it out next month). I use a receiver with a 3/4" rise.


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Yup I use the tow/haul mode. Lots of hills in my area so it makes more sence to hold it in gear longer and allow the auto downshifting.

I am also using the 3/4 rise. Boat is sitting nice and level with the truck squating. After I add the active suspension or Air bags ill have to use the 2inch drop instead im sure.

I measured it again yesterday.
Top of rear bumper no boat 30"
Boat connected 27"

3 inch drop, but after we add 4-5 adults, gear to the bed of the truck I'll see more drop LOL.

rdlangston13
02-26-2014, 10:48 PM
Why they don't all come with self leveling air suspension from the factory confuses me


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uniwarking
02-26-2014, 11:16 PM
What are you guys all using for air bags anyway? Yet another place to throw $$$...

KG's Supra24
02-27-2014, 12:15 AM
I think I have the Firestone bags. 300 or so but I didn't do onboard air. Probably would if I did it again

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mmandley
02-27-2014, 11:52 AM
What are you guys all using for air bags anyway? Yet another place to throw $$$...

I had air bags on my last 3 trucks but this time I am going to go with Roadmaster Active Suspension.

With up to 40% over load I shouldn't get any squat.
I've been waiting for a friend with an almost exact same truck but a 21 Malibu to install his so I can compare. The more and more I research on this system though the more and more I like it.

http://www.activesuspension.com/

kaneboats
02-27-2014, 12:06 PM
What are you guys all using for air bags anyway? Yet another place to throw $$$...

Here are a couple of old threads on this topic. Most of us love them.

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?19159-Air-bag-helper-springs&highlight=air+bags

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?10351-Air-Lift-Suspension&highlight=air+bags

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/showthread.php?13660-Air-Lift-1000&highlight=air+bags

beat taco
02-27-2014, 12:54 PM
I had air bags on my last 3 trucks but this time I am going to go with Roadmaster Active Suspension.

With up to 40% over load I shouldn't get any squat.
I've been waiting for a friend with an almost exact same truck but a 21 Malibu to install his so I can compare. The more and more I research on this system though the more and more I like it.

http://www.activesuspension.com/

What do you like about it?
You really think it's better than air bags?

moombadaze
02-27-2014, 01:19 PM
bags on the last 2 trucks myself, splurge and get the compressor too, just makes it easier to adjust on the fly, think both mine where firestones

mmandley
02-27-2014, 02:51 PM
What do you like about it?
You really think it's better than air bags?

For one you are sopposed to have better handling when loaded.
It also helps with axle wrap and wheel hopping under heavy acceleration. Air bags dont help this.
When your unloaded you have a quality factory style ride. Air bags will always make the rear end feel slightly harder over bumps
When I load the boat and truck I don't have to adjust the RAS. Its a set it and forget it system.

Not that I don't like air bags, as I do, just want something I don't have to fool with.

uniwarking
02-27-2014, 03:09 PM
Thanks for all of the details guys, sorry to hijack the thread though!

Anyone with experience on weight distributing hitches?


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beat taco
02-27-2014, 05:41 PM
For one you are sopposed to have better handling when loaded.
It also helps with axle wrap and wheel hopping under heavy acceleration. Air bags dont help this.
When your unloaded you have a quality factory style ride. Air bags will always make the rear end feel slightly harder over bumps
When I load the boat and truck I don't have to adjust the RAS. Its a set it and forget it system.

Not that I don't like air bags, as I do, just want something I don't have to fool with.

I've read on the f150 forums that it lifts the back 1" but don't see any mention of this on any you tube videos or on the RAS website. What's Vince say?
And did he measure drop from his boat before and after install?

Your truck shows the drop more since you did the leveling kit, mine sits so ass high it would probably be close to level with my boat. Just trying to get an idea about this RAS before I pull the trigger on bags.
My plan now is to do a lift, put an add-a-leaf in the back along with blocks and add bags so I can level it no matter how much weight I have. I just want it level lol!

mmandley
02-27-2014, 07:12 PM
I've read on the f150 forums that it lifts the back 1" but don't see any mention of this on any you tube videos or on the RAS website. What's Vince say?
And did he measure drop from his boat before and after install?

Your truck shows the drop more since you did the leveling kit, mine sits so ass high it would probably be close to level with my boat. Just trying to get an idea about this RAS before I pull the trigger on bags.
My plan now is to do a lift, put an add-a-leaf in the back along with blocks and add bags so I can level it no matter how much weight I have. I just want it level lol!

Vince is who I'm waiting on but hes waiting for good weather on a Saturday. That could be months here LOL.

Yes I think my leveling kit in the front makes the back look much more saggy then it really is.
Only thing I have read from the <Chevy forum> was it raised a guys truck 1/2 inch but after a few hundred miles it rested to 1/4 inch. He was concerned because he lowered his truck and this was raising it slightly.

Vince said he gets a 2inch drop on his truck with the boat. This makes since as I know the Mojo is more nose heavy then his boat.

beat taco
03-02-2014, 01:23 AM
Can you find out how much lift he has too?

beat taco
03-02-2014, 11:55 PM
I will have to take your advice! My first experience went badly, the service writer told me it would have to go to their body shop but it was closed. I guess it's five miles away from the dealership but he offered me no address or phone number, I explained the handle felt flimsy and he was unwilling to step out of his booth and look at it.
I guess they have plenty of business.

Turns out they DID want my business and got me dialed in. Better than new now.
Just spent another weekend in the snow with it, pickups shouldn't go where this thing will go in 2wd.

beat taco
03-08-2014, 02:21 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/09/mana6use.jpg

It's Christmas at Les Schwab today! My truck is about to grow up.

mmandley
03-08-2014, 02:33 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/09/mana6use.jpg

It's Christmas at Les Schwab today! My truck is about to grow up.

You getting it leveled?

Vince got his RAS installed, mine is at the house, going to do it Monday.

He said it lifted the rear about 3/4inch and with his boat he is seing just under 2inch drop, so really about 1 inch from the stock height.

I ordered a soft tonnaeu cover, and a bed rug for mine, hope it shoes up soon lol.

beat taco
03-08-2014, 03:52 PM
Damnit they have to reorder the wheels so it's gonna be a few days...

mmandley
03-20-2014, 03:16 PM
Wanted to post a couple updates.

I installed the Road Master Active Suspension System.
It raised the rear of the truck about 1 inch.
I still get a 3 inch drop when I hook up the boat but the truck looks more level then it used to.
I am a little disapointed I get a drop but I guess this is part of the design.

I will say the Ride is great. You get no bouncing over bumps, the truck feels very stable in turns, and when unloaded the truck rides very nice. It has a lot less body roll in corners no also. I am how ever thinking of adding Air bags still. I need to talk to Air Lift and see what they think and make sure its not counter productive to the suspension I added.

I have also added a low pro bed cover, its the soft roll up style and the Bed Rug. Didn't take a picture of the bed rug.

Before RAS upgrade
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/IMAG0009_zps5lkv60gn.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/IMAG0009_zps5lkv60gn.jpg.html)

After RAS upgrade
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/1901208_10202566054384906_362746123_n_zps05018827. jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/1901208_10202566054384906_362746123_n_zps05018827. jpg.html)

Upgrade its self.
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/IMAG0011_zpsumtn8jhy.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/IMAG0011_zpsumtn8jhy.jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/IMAG0012_zpsycrawjf9.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/IMAG0012_zpsycrawjf9.jpg.html)

mmandley
03-20-2014, 03:18 PM
THis is a closer shot of the truck with the RAS installed and Hooked to Beastia


http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/1098089_10202566054144900_880735551_n_zps733824a6. jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/1098089_10202566054144900_880735551_n_zps733824a6. jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/IMAG0013_zps1zqr18cq.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/IMAG0013_zps1zqr18cq.jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Eco/IMAG0014_zps56khx3f4.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Eco/IMAG0014_zps56khx3f4.jpg.html)

beat taco
03-20-2014, 08:54 PM
Looking good Mike. I got mine cleaned up today after I put my lift on Sunday. I picked wheels that won't be out for 2-3 months and went with a lift Les Schwab doesn't sell so I had to install it myself. It's a Auto Spring 2.5" with rear add a leaf.
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mmandley
03-26-2014, 05:53 PM
Nice, Yesterday I took the RAS off, readjusted it. It has 4 adjustment bolts that go under under the leaf spring at the axle, I was on the farthest forward, moved it back to the 3rd closest to the axle. Now i am only getting 1.5inch of drop when I load the boat on.

Looks better.

moombadaze
03-26-2014, 08:28 PM
whats so bad about a little drop when the boat is hooked up

mmandley
03-26-2014, 09:38 PM
whats so bad about a little drop when the boat is hooked up

Nothing when its a little, but when its 3inches and I don't even have people or gear in the back lol.

Also Moomadaze I think you asked about the bed cover? Hasn't leaked a drop. Worked perfectly and my mileage seems to be getting better, been getting 18 pretty consistently since I installed it. Might be the fact the rear of the truck is higher then the front now by 1 inch like factory.