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cab13367
03-23-2008, 06:18 PM
Does anyone know if the current LSV can accommodate a higher capacity front ballast bag, and if so, which one? I am interested in replacing the ski locker bag with a larger one but it looks like the 10x16x70 400# stock bag might be the biggest that will fit.

Thanks,

Al

Eric Z
03-23-2008, 08:07 PM
I just added two 400lb bags in the back. Does anyone know how to get the factory quick disconnects off. I am also adding some weight up front. I was going to use the stock bags under the front cushions, but I can't get the old parts off. How big were you going to go in the middle? If I can't get the 2x 250lb under the front I will run my water bed tube under there and my large cube under the playpen. Should be about 300lb up front. Please let me know how your middle ballast works out.

Membrain
03-23-2008, 08:17 PM
There’s a red lock ring that you just pull back on the stock quick disconnects. Once you have them pulled back, squeeze both side of the clamp thingy just behind the red lock ring and it will release from the bag. Once you look at it, you will see what I mean!

Eric Z
03-23-2008, 08:29 PM
I must explain myself better. I got them unhooked, I can't get the ends to unscrew out of the bag. I wanted to change them out so I can use them with a Tsunami pump. Thanks though.

cab13367
03-23-2008, 08:32 PM
I just added two 400lb bags in the back. Does anyone know how to get the factory quick disconnects off. I am also adding some weight up front. I was going to use the stock bags under the front cushions, but I can't get the old parts off. How big were you going to go in the middle? If I can't get the 2x 250lb under the front I will run my water bed tube under there and my large cube under the playpen. Should be about 300lb up front. Please let me know how your middle ballast works out.
Eric,

I've also upgraded my rear bags to 400# each and am interested in upgrading the front bag and would like to know if anyone has done the same. I am not interested in adding additional sacks to the bow area.

If you are asking how to remove the fittings on the bags, they just unscrew. Grab the base with a pair of pliers and carefully turn them counter-clockwise. They might be in there pretty tight.

Al

cab13367
03-23-2008, 09:02 PM
I must explain myself better. I got them unhooked, I can't get the ends to unscrew out of the bag. I wanted to change them out so I can use them with a Tsunami pump. Thanks though.
Eric,

I just tried to unscrew the fittings out of the stock bags and on one bag, they came right out. On the other bag, they won't budge. I think they might be glued in place or something.

Al

cab13367
03-23-2008, 09:09 PM
It think I might have answered my own question. I took some measurements of the ski locker and it measures 22" wide, 89" long, and 9" in height. However, after about three feet from the back, the bottom of the locker starts to curve upwards so the height starts dropping off. I am pretty sure that the stock bag is not getting up to it's 400lb capacity since it measures 10x16x70 and it's not getting the full 10" in height.

I think the only thing that can be done is to have a custom bag made that measures 9" in height and 22'' wide and about 80" in length but the amount of weight gained is probably not worth it.

Al

Membrain
03-23-2008, 10:27 PM
Yea…those things are in there very TIGHT! I filled the front ballast up on the XLV last night, on the lake, and air got trapped in it. I had to really get ugly with that screw off plug in order to bleed the air from the ballast. I don’t have any skin now in the webbing between my thumb and index finger!!! I had a few refreshments too that might have had something to do with it!

04OUTBACK
03-23-2008, 10:55 PM
Eric Z..
The fittings are glued in. Fly High can walk you through how to heat it up with a hair dryer and pull off.. Call their customer service number and they'll walk you through it.. It seems scary how they tell you to do it... but, it works..

B

cab13367
03-24-2008, 04:01 PM
All,

I called Fatsac today to find out how much they charge to make a custom bag. About $100 more than the cost of the bag that they already make that is closest in dimensions to what you want. When I told him what I was trying to accomplish, he said that my best bet is to buy a Gravity Games bag which measures 19x19x88 at a cost of $330. It will fill the ski locker to capacity and will cost less than having a bag custom made.

Al

spyder
04-21-2008, 05:12 PM
All,

I called Fatsac today to find out how much they charge to make a custom bag. About $100 more than the cost of the bag that they already make that is closest in dimensions to what you want. When I told him what I was trying to accomplish, he said that my best bet is to buy a Gravity Games bag which measures 19x19x88 at a cost of $330. It will fill the ski locker to capacity and will cost less than having a bag custom made.

Al

how much more weight would that give you?

cab13367
04-21-2008, 09:03 PM
spyder,

Not sure. The bag completely full I think weighs like 1100 lbs but there's no way it's going to completely fill up. You would have to measure the ski locker then do some math.

Al

pickle311
04-26-2008, 12:34 AM
based off of your measurements of 89*22*9 that gives you 78.6 gallons of water when it's filled 100%. 1 gallon of fresh water weighs 8.34lbs. 8.34lbs x 78.6 gallons is only 655.25lbs. Not enough gain there to justify a $300 sack.

Aquaholic
04-26-2008, 01:42 AM
Why not just find a stock 600lb gravity I bag. All the XLVs than are'nt GG's come stock with one. There are probly a few guys here that have one that they replaced with the 1100lbs bag. I did. I would sell it to you cheap but I bought a tsunami pump and plan to fill the 600 lbs bag for the surfing. If that does'nt make the surf wake big enough for my 200 lbs friends, I sell it to you.

cab13367
04-26-2008, 01:37 PM
based off of your measurements of 89*22*9 that gives you 78.6 gallons of water when it's filled 100%. 1 gallon of fresh water weighs 8.34lbs. 8.34lbs x 78.6 gallons is only 655.25lbs. Not enough gain there to justify a $300 sack.
Exactly, and that's why I abandoned it.

Al

cab13367
04-26-2008, 01:41 PM
Why not just find a stock 600lb gravity I bag. All the XLVs than are'nt GG's come stock with one. There are probly a few guys here that have one that they replaced with the 1100lbs bag. I did. I would sell it to you cheap but I bought a tsunami pump and plan to fill the 600 lbs bag for the surfing. If that does'nt make the surf wake big enough for my 200 lbs friends, I sell it to you.
Zach,

What are the dimensions of the 600# bag?

Are you running 750's in the rear? I would think that with 750's plus the 1100 in an XLV, that would throw a heck of surf wake. If your friends can't surf that, they can't surf! I'd suggest they buy bigger boards :wink:

Al