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spyder
04-05-2009, 01:08 AM
Hey, the place that winterized my boat did a hull scrub on my boat (don't know why they would of scrubbed the side since no algae gets there), but when I got the boat back it looked like the photo below.. they agreed to get it dealt with, but what kind of repairs would be required for a job like this? there about a good 10 spots like this around the boat...

http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/spyd4r/th_IMG_2213.jpg (http://s652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/spyd4r/?action=view&current=IMG_2213.jpg)

http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/spyd4r/th_IMG_2212.jpg (http://s652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/spyd4r/?action=view&current=IMG_2212.jpg)

what would you guys suggest, i am RETARDEDLY pissed off.

moombadaze
04-05-2009, 09:27 AM
hard to see from the photos but it looks like something "splashed" on it and ran down, could it be wet sanded and buffed out?

maxpower220
04-05-2009, 11:36 AM
I would start with a vinegar and water solution. If that doesn't work, try Nu Finish car polish. After trying non abrasive products, then I would do the wet sand and buff.

kennedy
04-05-2009, 11:36 AM
I would not even try to mess with it.

Every town has a good body shop. That is what these people do.

Take it to them and tell them to fix it!!!

Be prepared to pay the bill. But if your dealer is worth a sh**. They will at least spilt it with you!!!!


GOOD LUCK!!!!

zabooda
04-05-2009, 02:09 PM
Try what Max suggested. If it is some type of mineralized compound it will come right off with vinegar and water. The shop will probably try that first anyway.

spyder
04-05-2009, 11:21 PM
it looks like its right in the clear coat or gelcoat or whatever.. almost like a fade.

Sled491
04-06-2009, 09:33 PM
that's the nice thing about gel coats, there deep. So the finish can be restored no probs. But I agree that from the pics is just looks like something ran down the boat.

the repair would be a wet sand, then a polish and buffing

jikemones
04-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Looks like they may have splashed acid on your boat. You can try cleaners but you'll probably have to use a rubbing compound to remove the "etching of the gelcoat" Your dealer should be able to do this for you. Either way if the dealer is the responsible for staining they should also be held responsible for correcting it.

spyder
09-18-2014, 03:07 PM
so bumping a thread from the dead... anything this happened years ago from a negligent marine (Not a moomba dealer) while cleaning my boat for the winter (I usually always do this myself but this time was told oh let them do it.. cheap and saves you the time).. so I did it.. biggest mistake of my boating life.

The guy picked up my boat in the spring before the summer season and told me he'd take care of it and cover the costs. not knowing any better I let him go ahead. In the end, instead of repairing the gelcoat if that was possible. he brought it to a place and had it painted... (sure it came back looking good at the time) but a year or two later.. paint started chipping near edges and now it's BLISTERING!

I don't know what to do here... i'm being told by local fiberglass shops paint isn't meant to be sumerged for long periods of time... (I leave my boat in the water all summer).

so a few years later here I am.. with a problem and no solution...

is it possible... whatever the cost, to remove that paint that was applied and fix the gelcoat to get it back into it's original state?

Damage looked like this around the blue of the boat when it happened
http://i.imgur.com/Kszdp2Xl.jpg

Now look at the bubbling/blistering
http://i.imgur.com/oY2jVd6l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nVUHRwxl.jpg

aloon15
09-18-2014, 05:14 PM
Find out what chemical it is and post it so that we all don't do the same thing!

brain_rinse
09-18-2014, 10:15 PM
I would find a professional to do the work. I would think that they could strip the paint, then wetsand and buff the gelcoat back to new. Worst case than can respray the gelcoat.

spyder
09-18-2014, 10:28 PM
I would find a professional to do the work. I would think that they could strip the paint, then wetsand and buff the gelcoat back to new. Worst case than can respray the gelcoat.

I'm having a hard time finding that professional though.. really at a loss. really has me down ;(

brain_rinse
09-18-2014, 10:41 PM
You could strip and sand an area yourself, like the underwater transom area?

spyder
09-18-2014, 11:02 PM
You could strip and sand an area yourself, like the underwater transom area?
no chance.. lol

wolfeman131
09-18-2014, 11:17 PM
no chance.. lol

Why not? Not trying to be mean spirited, but it's not like you can make it worse.

spyder
09-18-2014, 11:19 PM
Why not? Not trying to be mean spirited, but it's not like you can make it worse.

yes i could, not very skilled when it comes to fixing visible things ;)

Crittr
09-19-2014, 01:43 PM
Spyder,

I'm in Belleville, I may be able to help you out. I wet sanded, polished, and buffed my boat.

spyder
09-19-2014, 03:18 PM
Spyder,

I'm in Belleville, I may be able to help you out. I wet sanded, polished, and buffed my boat.

Thanks, I'm only up that way in the summer... boat sits down outside Waterloo all winter..

How hard to you think it would be to remove the layer of paint they added?

jmvotto
09-20-2014, 09:40 AM
Are these close enough to you?

http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT.PScx1UEWIADMDBGOd_;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bm90NWx iBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1RBVVMwNzNfM Q--/RV=2/RE=1411245138/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fbankesmarineservices.com%2fgelcoat-re-finishing.htm/RK=0/RS=5TcQ4YJltp6CiYFraXKmgUCoyFw-


http://ontariofiberglassrepairs.com/boatsRepairs.html

spyder
09-20-2014, 12:19 PM
Are these close enough to you?

http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT.PScx1UEWIADMDBGOd_;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bm90NWx iBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1RBVVMwNzNfM Q--/RV=2/RE=1411245138/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fbankesmarineservices.com%2fgelcoat-re-finishing.htm/RK=0/RS=5TcQ4YJltp6CiYFraXKmgUCoyFw-


http://ontariofiberglassrepairs.com/boatsRepairs.html
Really need someone with first hand experience. I emailed a few places around. And two of them have said I'm basically f'd

I need someone I can trust.

jmvotto
09-20-2014, 07:04 PM
Find a guy that works on boats that will do it on the side or a custom auto shop guy that will as well.

papou
09-21-2014, 01:51 AM
You can use a paint stripper but don't leave it on for long 2 h max the gellcoat will soften ,wash and let dry. the surface most likely has been sanded for the paint to stick , so it will have to be wet sanded again with 1000 grit then 3000 grit then finished with a 3 stage buffing compound .
Or it can be sanded and new blue gellcoat can be sprayed , Or a new color .

Crittr
09-22-2014, 10:37 AM
I don't think it would be that hard, just time consuming. I'd start with a sanding block and 220 grit just to see what's under the paint.
Who knows how much gelcoat they removed to paint it, if any. I know 220 sounds aggressive, but if you go slow and keep lots of water on it, it will be fine. It's pain staking work, but worth it.
If the previous shop removed too much gelcoat in order to paint it, you will be ahead of the game anyway, because they'll just charge you to remove the paint anyway.
If the gel coat is fine under the paint, then you can continue with 400 grit, then 600, then 800, then 1000, then polish and buff and it's good as new.
If the gel coat is too thin (you can see the fibreglass), then it will have to be gel coated anyways. If you're willing to wet sand it again after it's sprayed with gel coat, you can save significant dollars, and you will have learned from wet sanding the paint off/prepping for new gel coat.
There are infinite websites detailing how to wet sand gelcoat.

spyder
09-22-2014, 01:45 PM
I don't think it would be that hard, just time consuming. I'd start with a sanding block and 220 grit just to see what's under the paint.
Who knows how much gelcoat they removed to paint it, if any. I know 220 sounds aggressive, but if you go slow and keep lots of water on it, it will be fine. It's pain staking work, but worth it.
If the previous shop removed too much gelcoat in order to paint it, you will be ahead of the game anyway, because they'll just charge you to remove the paint anyway.
If the gel coat is fine under the paint, then you can continue with 400 grit, then 600, then 800, then 1000, then polish and buff and it's good as new.
If the gel coat is too thin (you can see the fibreglass), then it will have to be gel coated anyways. If you're willing to wet sand it again after it's sprayed with gel coat, you can save significant dollars, and you will have learned from wet sanding the paint off/prepping for new gel coat.
There are infinite websites detailing how to wet sand gelcoat.

definitely wayyyyyyyyyyyyy out of my comfort zone ;)