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jmvotto
06-15-2009, 11:57 AM
http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S967744.shtml

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090610/NEWS01/906100336/1003/news01/Death-of-Livonia-water-skier-ruled-accidental

kaneboats
06-15-2009, 12:05 PM
Lost his balance and got caught in the ski rope. Wonder if his head hit the ski? That's just sad.

I don't know how close we came to being part of a story on Sat. A group with about 8-10 people set up on the beach along the Flint River on Sat. They put up a shade tent and had a little boat and two waverunners. They had about 30-40 gallons of gas in 5 gallon cans sitting in the shade under the tent. Right in front of these tanks they had set up lawn chairs in the shade (it was 95 out). We were beached right next to them and the kids were playing in the sand and in the water. I looked over there and noticed about a 20 y/o gal sitting in one of the chairs enjoying a smoke. I walked over there and asked her to avoid putting my boat and kids in danger. She looked at me dumbfounded. I said, "The explosion from that much gas will hit everybody on this beach." She stubbed it out in the sand. We got the heck out of there though.

Edit: I also recall that the breeze was blowing in from the water past her and toward the gas cans.

BensonWdby
06-15-2009, 01:51 PM
I have this info from a pretty reliable source:

Disabled skier, John O'Neill (54) was running the slalom course at 32 mph when he had a fall and his head most likely went through the handle bridle. John was killed instantly when the rope came tight.

John was a one armed skier who would put his arm through the handle and grab his vest. The pull from the boat would transfer to his elbow. In this way he was able to ski well and was ranked #2 nationally in his division.

If anyone wants to send their sympathies to Darrell and Crystal and to the family of John O'Neill you can email Darrell at: Darrell.DeBey@neweracap.com. Darrell will forward the emails to the O'Neill family.

Our hearts go out to the freinds and family of John.

kaneboats
06-15-2009, 02:41 PM
Thanks for the info. So sorry to hear this.

Razzman
06-15-2009, 02:51 PM
There is a push to alter the slalom handle so that this cannot happen. Last year champion slalom skier Brett Yeager was killed in Acapulco, Mexico at Gordon Rathbun's Ski Paradise when he fell and his head fell into the handle at 38 mph.

kaneboats
06-15-2009, 02:52 PM
I suppose you could put some kind of webbing in the V so nothing bigger than your fingers could get through.

jmvotto
06-15-2009, 03:26 PM
Bensonwdby,

Thanks for putting that out there. I saw this locally and was shocked that it had happened.

joe

moombadaze
06-15-2009, 03:27 PM
I suppose you could put some kind of webbing in the V so nothing bigger than your fingers could get through.

very good idea--could almost be solid-except for about 3" in front of the actuall handle--fingers only would fit.

Good job telling that girl to put out the smoke.

kaneboats
06-15-2009, 05:38 PM
Thanks! I try to be alert about what's going on around me. I couldn't help but notice they had about 6 full new red gas cans. Then I saw her smoking. And I really don't have it in for people who smoke or anything like that. I like a decent cigar a few times a year. But I couldn't believe anyone could be that stupid. I think she was the same one who a few minutes before that rode the waverunner 15 feet up onto the beach. It took 3 guys to drag it back to the water. Could have busted her neck hitting the beach at that speed. Like I said, we got out of there. If they are that stupid the best thing to do is steer clear of them.

Spaceball 1
06-15-2009, 09:58 PM
Lost his balance and got caught in the ski rope. Wonder if his head hit the ski? That's just sad.

I don't know how close we came to being part of a story on Sat. A group with about 8-10 people set up on the beach along the Flint River on Sat. They put up a shade tent and had a little boat and two waverunners. They had about 30-40 gallons of gas in 5 gallon cans sitting in the shade under the tent. Right in front of these tanks they had set up lawn chairs in the shade (it was 95 out). We were beached right next to them and the kids were playing in the sand and in the water. I looked over there and noticed about a 20 y/o gal sitting in one of the chairs enjoying a smoke. I walked over there and asked her to avoid putting my boat and kids in danger. She looked at me dumbfounded. I said, "The explosion from that much gas will hit everybody on this beach." She stubbed it out in the sand. We got the heck out of there though.

Edit: I also recall that the breeze was blowing in from the water past her and toward the gas cans.

I guess you have never watched Mythbusters or ever threw a lit cig into gas before? Gas needs a spark or open flame not heat alone.

jmvotto
06-16-2009, 08:01 AM
I'm with kane, i would not have stuck around to disprove the myth. Can't teach stupidity I guess she was just born with it. waverunner 15ft on the beach, she is definately lucky to still be here.

BensonWdby
06-16-2009, 08:31 AM
It's not the liquid you worry about - it's the vapor. Gas cans sitting in the sun/heat can 'off-gas' due to thermal expansion. This vapor is highly flammable.

kaneboats
06-16-2009, 11:23 AM
You beat me to it. It was 95 out. A small ember from a cigarette will start a forest fire -- it will certainly ignite the vapors.