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    Just wondering what everyone is using...Tsunami mostly or Jabsco (09 and newer)? I'm about to take my boat to the dealer to have GG3 installed. I know the Tsunami 1200 is aerator type pump, 9 gal per min, sometimes has issues priming, and does not burn up if ran dry by accident. The Jabsco pumps are $200 more PER pump, are self priming, are more prone to burning out if ran dry, 13.5 gal per min, and is recommended to replace the impeller from black to yellow. Any input would be helpful

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    the jabsco pumps fill and drain, not sure if the tsunami drains.

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    2 completely different setups. jabsco are more expensive, prone to burning out, but they fill/drain in one pump and I believe are self-priming and have different plumbing. tsunami are cheap, don't burn out, but you need both a fill and a drain.
    I am guessing if you are getting the gIII setup, you are getting tsunami's as that it probably what an '08 would have come wired for.
    to answer the basic question, I'd opt for tsunami's every time..

    personally, If it was my boat, I'd get the gIII setup with tsunami's, but I'd pay the extra 2-3bills to do the mods that tazz/fman have done. eliminate the sprinkler valves and put in 3 tsunami's on a manifold to fill the bags and then the 3 drain pumps to drain them.
    it seems to be a great mod that dramatically increases the fill rates and makes the ballast system more what should have been installed from the start.
    if your dealer has done any ballast upgrades, they should know how to do this, complete with vented lines...

    def. worth the extra money you may have to come up with from what I have read on here. it's on my list of projects this winter

    read up on the threads and question the dealer..
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    I love the mod I did on my boat. Three 1200gph Tsunami Pumps. One for each bag. That has been the great mod I have done so far. If the dealership is going to do it, I would opt for the Tsunami pumps. Are they going to put in 3 pumps or just one pump and the dreaded Sprinkler Valve garbage. If they do that, go for it. come back to the site and Myself or Fman are here to help you. If you do go through that route, I will give you all the websites to go to to get everything you need. Do not get your stuff from www.wakemakers.com. very poor customer service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tazz3069 View Post
    I love the mod I did on my boat. Three 1200gph Tsunami Pumps. One for each bag. That has been the great mod I have done so far. If the dealership is going to do it, I would opt for the Tsunami pumps. Are they going to put in 3 pumps or just one pump and the dreaded Sprinkler Valve garbage. If they do that, go for it. come back to the site and Myself or Fman are here to help you. If you do go through that route, I will give you all the websites to go to to get everything you need. Do not get your stuff from www.wakemakers.com. very poor customer service.
    Tazz
    From what the sales guy was talking was 3 pumps.

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    Good three pumps is what you want. Now I would find out if they will be putting three intakes for the pumps. Will they be using vented loops? These loops take the place of the sprinkler valves. The valves restrict the water flow.
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    Tazz, if you don't mind, from the intake on the hull all the way to the bag, what parts are involved in that order for the stock GG3. Also, on your modified system from the water intake to the bag how do the parts go in order. So I know what to ask for.

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    If the Tsunami pumps are one way pumps (fill or empty) how does the system drain when using the 3 Tsunami pumps? I'm such a noob

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    First question--
    Stock Ballast system goes as follow:
    1-3/4" Scupper
    Shut off valve
    1 500gph pump
    water strainer
    3 sprinkler valves
    bags

    Modified system
    3-1" scuppers
    3- 1" shut off valves
    3- 1200GPH Tsunami Pumps
    3- 3/4" vented loops.

    Second question.
    I used the stock drain pumps. These are separate pumps that came stock with the boat. I do not care about the drain time only the fill time. My fill time is 7.5 min to fill 3 400lb bags. Let me find my link and I will post it for you.
    Tazz
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    Quote Originally Posted by tazz3069 View Post
    First question--
    Stock Ballast system goes as follow:
    1-3/4" Scupper
    Shut off valve
    1 500gph pump
    water strainer
    3 sprinkler valves
    bags

    Modified system
    3-1" scuppers
    3- 1" shut off valves
    3- 1200GPH Tsunami Pumps
    3- 3/4" vented loops.

    Second question.
    I used the stock drain pumps. These are separate pumps that came stock with the boat. I do not care about the drain time only the fill time. My fill time is 7.5 min to fill 3 400lb bags. Let me find my link and I will post it for you.
    Tazz
    Thanks, makes sense. The dealer said he had a few 750lb sacs at the shop so he said he would order the GGIII system and would just swap out the standard rear bags for the 750lbs.

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