Brain, thanks so much for posting that information from SC. It's unfortunate that this is happening to a large number of the loyal customers on this site. I am sure there are countless other boats out there experiencing this issue that aren't on this forum.
In a perfect world, SC would make good on this as part of a 'recall' or something similar. However, we all know it's not a perfect world. I am really stoked to see the proactive approaches by a lot of you guys on here - personally I'm not ready to drill into the floor of my boat - but I am glad to know I have options. And from all appearances, these options have all worked, at least in providing a way to remove the water.
True, it's crap that this is occuring at all, and it would be awesome to dry the area completely up, seal it all 100%, and be done with it. But it sounds like there very well may be numerous places water can get into the place.
So, whether you do or wether you don't try to fix you boat, it makes me feel a little better that SC did have a little to say on it (though they needed prodding several times). I would caution to take their stance at face value, but I don't think they would lead us all astray, not when it comes to the structural integrity of their boats - and not when we all love our Moombas as much as we do!
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11-03-2010, 03:53 PM #14108 LSV
Go big, or go home.
11-03-2010, 04:23 PM #142
Nope, they will never see my boat again. The funny thing was I brought up my concerns to Natalie Carrera way back in '08 about them and she insured me that their previous reputation issues had been addressed. I guess they didn't take it seriously. I made the mistake of telling a buddy to go to them, they screwed his up too! My bad, shame on me ...
More thoughts ...
I'm thinking this needs to be looked at by a neutral third party and assessed, no manufacturer is going to own up to a defect in hull design or construction. If this is indeed a defective design then even the "fix" may not actually fix this at all. Like i said earlier, If the water is getting in from somewhere else then this won't correct anything right?
Think about it, '07 up boats have dripless shaft seals so where would that much water be coming from? The bilge? Not enough to fill that bow cavity. I have a really hard time believing that much water can flow through the small hole into the ski locker from the bilge and go forward and over into that cavity. Water over the bow would flow over, accross the floor and to the rear of the boat. Sure some would get to the ski locker, but not that much!
Currently i don't have a ballast bag in the ski locker, the pump is even removed so no water can get in there from the ballast system yet there is still water there. There's no leaks in the cooling system at all so what gives?
Take away all the other variables i've heard. Rain storms; nope, not me. Water over the bow; not since summer of '08. Wet gear in locker; nope, never. So where is it coming from? It's enough that i have to suck it up with a vac or multiple towels. I'll know more in a couple days. This makes me wonder if this issue isn't part of the reason for their Vinylester Barrier they apply? To protect against extra water in the hull and delamination?
Just thinking openly is all. The more i see and read about this the madder it makes me. I love my LSV and it's been 100% reliable, but this is not right and needs to be addressed by SC, especially since the list is growing every day!2007 Mobius LSV
11-03-2010, 04:32 PM #143
11-03-2010, 04:44 PM #144
When I removed all the foam, the water was very clear and there was absolutely no smell to the water or the inside of the compartment. I also just had the boat winterized so there was antifreeze in the motor bilge but there was no pink color to the water I was taking out for under the ski locker.
I just looked at lunch and there is another inch of water in the hole.
I have a real hard time with the comment SC made about the freezing of the water, that"s a lot of water and eventually SOMETHING will crake, break or heave over time. Yes it has some area to expand but the water should have a correct place to flow to and bilged out.
SC should at lest figure that out for us guys that do not have a Dealer in our area.2004 MOBIUS LSV
11-03-2010, 04:51 PM #145Senior Member
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11-03-2010, 05:38 PM #146
11-03-2010, 06:01 PM #147
Like I said before, SC should come up with a solution.2004 MOBIUS LSV
11-03-2010, 06:22 PM #148
But, now that I think more about it, I've seen my ski locker have quite a bit of water in it after a few hours on the water, and no idea how or where that water came from. Similar to what Razz has stated several times... I rarely if ever take water over the bow, don't store wet things in the locker... interesting.
Hopefully things will survive one more winter, and I'll check to see if I have this issue in the spring...08 LSV
Go big, or go home.
11-03-2010, 06:58 PM #149
So to expand on that idea (which some have said) and to make this pretty much worry-free.
- Drill a 6-8" opening in the ski locker floor comparable to the lowest collection point below.
- Carve out foam circularly same diameter as deck plate to hull.
- Insert circular screen from top to bottom in opening (similar to raw water filter screen).
- Insert and secure an auto bilge pump (ex: Rule 500 series) into opening.
- Plumb into front ballast drain.
- Wire to existing bilge pump circuit or another 12v ignition source.
- Insert a 6-8" deck plate in the ski locker and seal.
The biggest issue would be securing the bilge pump to an uneven surface. It would have to be very secure as that portion of the hull takes a bit of hammering unlike the stern bilge area.
The biggest plus to this which i believe was said, you wouldn't have to cut into your floor or worry about fixing the obvious defect (imo).
Hmmm ... I like this idea MUCH better than cutting the floor.
Last edited by Razzman; 11-03-2010 at 07:00 PM.2007 Mobius LSV
11-03-2010, 06:59 PM #15009 21v LAUNCH
run your engine after you change your oil
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