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  1. #1
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    Default Dual filling ballast bag

    I've updated the left ballast bag on my 2013 LSV to 1,000#. It takes around 10.5 minutes to fill and empty. No one in my family surfs goofy, so I was thinking about rerouting the right pump to fill the left bag. The larger bag has 2 connections on top. Are there any potential issues having my two pumps filling the 1,000# bag simultaneously? It would cut the fill time in half. Where can I get the hose and clamps to do this since I'll have to extend the length. Could install a "T" connection to fill both sides.
    DaveM

    2013 LSV 330HP

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    Interesting idea. I'd also want a larger vent if it were my boat. With reversibles you'd want both fill/drain ports to be on the bottom of the bag, and I wouldn't use a T connection or you'll be losing a lot/all of the fill potential. Good luck and post pics!

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    no reason you could not do something like that
    Hey, Its Moomba time

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    For the Echo Skis budget build we contaplating double filling the rear bag. So long as you have enough ports on your bag it should work. I can't see any reason it won't, let us know how it works if you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brain_rinse View Post
    Interesting idea. I'd also want a larger vent if it were my boat. With reversibles you'd want both fill/drain ports to be on the bottom of the bag, and I wouldn't use a T connection or you'll be losing a lot/all of the fill potential. Good luck and post pics!
    I agree.

    You can find the fittings around the net depending on the sizes of the hose/ballast connectors and fittings.
    When I upgraded my Supra, I used WakeMakers: http://www.wakemakers.com/
    Easy to use and deal with.

    You may be able to fill with 2 pumps (bottom and top fittings), but you will only be able to drain from the bottom connection.
    Unless your bag has 2 fittings on the bottom.
    I assume your bag currently fills and drains from the bottom fitting and one of the top fittings is the vent.

    On my 2007 Supra, I have 3 Johnson Pumps. Two are on the back bags (750#) - right and left.
    I have the other pump that is connected to the Center Bag and Bow Bag for wake boarding.
    I have a Y-Valve that controls what bag it fills or drains. Works well.
    Pump > Y-Valve > Hoses to each Bag
    I made sure all of my bags are vented.
    http://www.wakemakers.com/bosworth-y-valve.html

    Overall, 10.5 mins is not bad . . . drink a beer.
    I'm usually connecting the surf ropes or getting the vests ready to use.
    So as I'm moving around the boat, once I see the water coming out of the vent on the side of the boat, I'm good to go.
    If you can connect 2 pumps to one bag, 5 mins to fill/drain, let the group know how it works

    M-

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    Wasn't Wakemakers or someone making a cross fill where you could pump from one bag to another? The idea was to pump across rather than up to make it faster? I think they were putting two fittings on the bottom which could come in handy for this. Not sure if that ever made it.
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    yes, wakemakers calls it the "X-link" system

    http://www.wakemakers.com/x-link-cro...t-package.html
    Drew
    2015 Supra SG

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman131 View Post
    yes, wakemakers calls it the "X-link" system

    http://www.wakemakers.com/x-link-cro...t-package.html
    I recall reading that was the pump between the 2 back bags.
    1" line connected thru the pump.
    Something like 5 mins to switch the water in the bags.

    Still would need to have bags with 2 fittings on the bottom
    Not sure why all bags would not have extra fittings on the top and bottom.

    M-

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    Default Dual filling ballast bag

    Actually, you don't need two fittings on the bottom of the bags. I have the x-link. What I did was put a 1" t fitting in line between the pump and port on each bag. Then plumb the x-link lines to those t fittings. Works great and I didn't need to buy new bags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moombahighrider View Post
    Actually, you don't need two fittings on the bottom of the bags. I have the x-link. What I did was put a 1" t fitting in line between the pump and port on each bag. Then plumb the x-link lines to those t fittings. Works great and I didn't need to buy new bags.
    Well that makes sense. What is your transfer time on those bags?
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    1,180 in front
    OJ 1435 prop, 325 EFI Indmar Assult.
    Fresh Air Exhaust
    Bunch of other crap

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