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    Quote Originally Posted by jstenger View Post
    I plan on having my son surf one this Friday. I am going to bring a 750# bag with me so that I can compare the stock 400# with the 750#.
    Pictures Joe!!! Don't forget the pictures!!! Would be nice to see a pic of the wave with no one on it if you can swing it.
    One of the best Moomba wave vids on youtube is Drew's original testing of his Mojo with no one riding, so you could actually see the wave shape.

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    I plan to take pictures and video.
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    I understand that old people like to surf but I have friends who are locally who are getting away from SC to go to a manufacturer that the feel has more consistent wakeboard wakes. This makes me sad as I am a huge SC fan but I am having issues convincing them other wise. Although on this forum there are some older surf
    guys i still believe that wakeboard holds the majority of the market. Axis seems to be a very popular and common brand and they are known to be be great wakeboard wakes and horrible surf wakes. I just think it would be cool to have options. A hull designed to do one good and another hull designed for the other thing without having to jump manufacturers. That way everyone wins


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    Quote Originally Posted by jstenger View Post
    I plan to take pictures and video.
    Are you all going to be demoing on Gun Lake?
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    Mentioning axis and not wanting to jump brands, axis makes 3 boats, 20/22/24. all wakeboard great and all surf not great. to get a surfboat, you are not going to even shop axis. I think(entirely imo) skiers has done a good job from what I see selling supra into the wakeboat market considering the SA/SC, both fantastic wakeboats, but if the SC is anything like the SA, decent but not top notch surfboats(yet I hear) and Moomba has churned out the Mojo(surf), the Mondo(not seen anything but looks to be a surf-specific hull) and the addition of more freeboard to the LSV to allow more weight to surf. It really feels like they have produced a good line of boats that fit most needs.

    I would not disagree that wakeboarding is still more popular than surfing, but at the end of the day, pull the demographics of who are signing contracts for new boats and I would bet money it's very slanted toward the 35 and up crowd, not the 35 and under crowd. When you compare what people in the 35 and under group are doing, it's slanted toward boarding and the 35 and over set are surfing so which demographic are you going to market your product toward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    Mentioning axis and not wanting to jump brands, axis makes 3 boats, 20/22/24. all wakeboard great and all surf not great. to get a surfboat, you are not going to even shop axis. I think(entirely imo) skiers has done a good job from what I see selling supra into the wakeboat market considering the SA/SC, both fantastic wakeboats, but if the SC is anything like the SA, decent but not top notch surfboats(yet I hear) and Moomba has churned out the Mojo(surf), the Mondo(not seen anything but looks to be a surf-specific hull) and the addition of more freeboard to the LSV to allow more weight to surf. It really feels like they have produced a good line of boats that fit most needs.

    I would not disagree that wakeboarding is still more popular than surfing, but at the end of the day, pull the demographics of who are signing contracts for new boats and I would bet money it's very slanted toward the 35 and up crowd, not the 35 and under crowd. When you compare what people in the 35 and under group are doing, it's slanted toward boarding and the 35 and over set are surfing so which demographic are you going to market your product toward?
    With the above being said, is the Mondo (mini Mojo) a surf specific boat? I understand that I am not going to get the best ski wake, but is the wakeboard wake going to suffer also? Should I just stick with my OBV?
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    drew might answer that better, but I would expect it to be a better wake than the obv due to the hull design and the freeboard being much larger, you can run more weight "safer" than the obv, not to mention the added width should make it more comfortable inside and a more challenging wake for those riding the end of the line.
    having surfed a mojo, if the mondo is anywhere near that, it will be a solid surfer and not ridden but seen a mojo wakeboard wake, you should be very pleased with the end result.

    waterskiing, I bet it'll be a night/day from the obv. that boat has a decent ski wake.
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    If the 35 and up crowd are in fact that main ones signing the checks then I think they are going about this all wrong at SC. They need to focus Supra on surfing and Moomba on wakeboarding. The 35 and up crowd will have more money and thus can afford the higher cost Supras for their surfing desires while the 35 and under crowd is poor and needs the less expensive Moomba to satisfy their wakeboarding needs.

    And of everyone I know in the market for a new boat right now, they are all less than 35. Most the 35 year old plus guys I know that are in the market just want either a pontoon boat or a Bayliner run about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdlangston13 View Post
    And of everyone I know in the market for a new boat right now, they are all less than 35. Most the 35 year old plus guys I know that are in the market just want either a pontoon boat or a Bayliner run about.
    Not me! I turned 40 this year. Screw pintoons and runabouts. If it weren't for torn ACL, I would still be trying to jump wake to wake on my board. You kids make it look to easy. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdlangston13 View Post
    And of everyone I know in the market for a new boat right now, they are all less than 35. Most the 35 year old plus guys I know that are in the market just want either a pontoon boat or a Bayliner run about.
    And how many of those under 35 are ready to drop a down payment on a $60k inboard? I know a bunch of 40 somethings looking to switch to an inboard in the next 2 years....for surfing. Your perspective depends on the people you hang and don't hang with on a regular basis. David I have no idea how old you are, but you sound like a young guy (20-30) who runs with a young crew who loves wakeboarding, more power to you buddy. At 42 I wakeboard allot less and surf allot more mainly because Monday morning just doesn't hurt as much that way.

    The fact as some have stated is pocket book. I worked a boat show last year and the buying demographics was mid 30's and later. The mid-20 crowd comes and looks but just doesn't normally plunk the money down, but you see a husband and wife about mid-30's or later walk up and start talking pricing/options and you are definitely thinking cha-ching.

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