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  1. #1
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    Default Upcoming upgrades - ballast questions

    We just got a 2007 LSV, so now I have to think about it all winter. To entertain myself, I'm starting to plan some modifications. I got some great ideas from this forum. I think that the top of the list will be a swivel seat, some ballast upgrades and a wind screen for the walk through.

    It came with the GIII system. My end goal is to have large locker bags, IBS and plumbed with 3 dedicated reversible pumps. I have a couple of questions:
    1. Can I "ease" into this system, financially? I'd like to get the larger bags first. Can I live with the stock pump set up with longer fill times (20 minutes?) while I save some money for the pumps?
    2. It's not clear to me what size bags fit in the lockers. From what I've read, I think that 1100# bags fit (with bracing) but I've also read a lot of 750# set ups. Is 750# the limit for the earlier LSVs (2005 and earlier)?

    Are there any other must-have modification projects that should be on my short-list?
    2007 Mobius LSV
    1989 Sanger Skier DX - sold

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    Default Upcoming upgrades - ballast questions

    Quote Originally Posted by gregski View Post
    1. Can I "ease" into this system, financially?
    Not without relentless ridicule from the rest of us.
    Drew
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman131 View Post
    Not without relentless ridicule from the rest of us.
    agreed. go whole hog or sit on the porch.
    Hey, Its Moomba time

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    The poor guy asks a couple of simple questions in one of his first posts and that's the welcome he gets?? Let the ridicule begin....

    I have the smaller OBV, but you should be fine with the stock pumps until ready to upgrade and I believe the 1100# sacs should fit in your LSV just fine.
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    If you upgrade to the bigger bags in the back, you will find that you need an IBS to compensate for the weight. I've got the same boat and it loves weight in the bow. When we fill the 750's in the back for wakeboarding, we put an additional 800 in the bow on top of the IBS. So that's another bag you will need to fill soon enough, and you can't run all four on one pump in my opinion - it would take too long. You could save a little money and go with aerator pumps over the reversibles. That is what I currently have and they have treated me well (although reversibles would be nice). The timing really depends on you and how you most enjoy your time on the boat. Time to sit/fill or on the go?

    The 1100's will fit in the 07 LSV with bracing as you said. If you plan to do a lot of surfing, definitely go with the 1100's. The 750's I have put out a good surf wave for our use but we spend most of our time and effort progressing on wakeboarding. As I mentioned earlier with the 750's and some weight up front, we get a great wake for boarding.

    If it didn't come with Perfect Pass, that would be mod #1 in my book. The ACME 1433 or similar prop upgrade would be #2 with the added weight.
    Joey

    2007 LSV
    Gravity III w/ 750's and IBS, Acme 1433
    WS-420SQ, Kicker KM6500.2, JL e4300, JL 12w6v2, JL e1400D, Polk db651s, JL JX360/4

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenehrkorn View Post
    The poor guy asks a couple of simple questions in one of his first posts and that's the welcome he gets?? Let the ridicule begin....
    It's OK, I fully expected it. The "ease into it financially" was a bit tongue in cheek. I wish I could break out another hundred, but alas it's another thousand.

    Quote Originally Posted by JGP54321 View Post
    If you plan to do a lot of surfing, definitely go with the 1100's.

    If it didn't come with Perfect Pass, that would be mod #1 in my book. The ACME 1433 or similar prop upgrade would be #2 with the added weight.
    My wife is 100% surf, so that's my motivation to go 1100#. I'm probably 70/30 wakeboarding/surfing so I'll likely want a little less ballast for boarding but we'll see I'm basically giving up the slalom. I know people say the Mobius is a good cross-over, but I've never enjoyed skiing behind one - but of course I'm coming from a competition ski style boat with a sweet (none) wake at 30 mph.

    It had already been upgraded to PP Star Gazer, which would have been #1 otherwise. My old boat doesn't have PP and I was tired of jerky pulls while every new driver learned. I forgot about the prop. I don't know what is on there so I'll need to look.
    2007 Mobius LSV
    1989 Sanger Skier DX - sold

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    Quote Originally Posted by moombadaze View Post
    agreed. go whole hog or sit on the porch.
    Looks to me like he's going bacon and hamhocks to start. guessing the rest of the whole hog will come after the sale of the ski boat and we all peer-pressure him into a new gigawatt soundsystem, led's, 18" shoes, tow cover, etc......
    '06 Supra Launch 20SSV-gone but never forgotten

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGP54321 View Post
    Time to sit/fill or on the go?
    When we launch, we easily have 15+ minutes while the truck is parking, driver returns to the dock and we idle out of the no-wake and then the no-ski zones. The inconvenience would be when switching set-ups but I think we could tolerate a bit of waiting for the first season. But is ~20 minutes even in the ball park to fill say 600# in the rear lockers, the center and an IBS with the stock pump? Or am I talking about 40?
    2007 Mobius LSV
    1989 Sanger Skier DX - sold

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    You don't want to fill with just one pump. I suggest you drill a new 1" thru-hull to supply your surf side bag and get a Tsunami pump like this one dedicated to the surf bag. You can keep everything else stock for now. (You can keep the pump or sell it later but you need the extra inlet for your eventual reversible pump on that side anyway.) You can also consider a T fitting and putting two of these on there.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Attwood-T1...2-VDC/14150754
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    I had the old sprinkler valve setup with 3 fill valves running off a single thru hull/pump on my old supra. it would take around 15 minutes to fill one of the 1100 sacs in the rear locker and the 400 sac in the belly. no other mods to the setup than the bag. had plans to do some of the mods you will find on here, but really never found the need nor the time to do them. gave time to swim, crack a beer or just shoot the breeze. I can't speak to switchover as that boat never saw a goofy wave in the 5years I owned it. around the same time for the single rule pump to drain the 1100bag as well.
    '06 Supra Launch 20SSV-gone but never forgotten

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