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    looks like the sides of the boat got lengthened about 2 feet. some of you guys are doing some very creative wave mods, wish I had the ability
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    The gate is fixed. The blade started as a 12" x 24" piece of HDPE. I then trimmed to match the contours of the hull.

    Pretty easy to piece together with a jig saw and some screws.
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    Did you deploy at a full 90 degrees or something less? I would think the longer wings would allow less angle to do the same as the Flow which would have less stress on the mounts.
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    Sorry about the b-ball game in the background and try not to notice the zig zag screw pattern.

    The blade is set a to be in a straight line with the hull.

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    Impressive, with all that ballast I would have guessed the thing would have been completely submerged.

    I like the fact that you can surf with just whatever ballast you have and the wake just gets longer and taller as you pile on the weight.
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    The ballast was close to an even split front to rear. When I added the 900 to the lounge area floor it did not really change the pitch of the boat too much. I assume that weight biased toward the rear may have put out the blade underwater. It also helped that I ran 400lbs more on the surf side raising the gate side up a bit.

    The top of the gate stayed out of the water, both at speed and resting with the weight distribution that I used.
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    So why did you choose to have the gate come straight out as an extension of your hull? I mean, I guess I can see how it might be a bit easier to do it that way and all, but why wouldn't you put it out at about the 15 or 20 degree angle like Malibu and Axis do? Yours is the 2nd that I've seen where it's done as basically just a hull extension and not angled like Malibu does.

    Honestly about anything will function as a means of delaying convergence of the wakes. I went with a system that was similar to the NSS blades because it's stealth when not in use and I can change from regular to goofy in under 10 seconds with nothing extra to carry on the boat. And when I'm done it's stowed away and not even a thought.

    I SERIOUSLY considered doing a Malibu like design, and even had an exact template of the size/shape of a 2014 Axis surf gate. That and a pair of stainless steel hinges and some bimini parts to prop it out and I would have had a gate that deployed and retracted that had the same dimensions. (I figure why go off and design your own angles, size, shape when boat engineers have already done it for you. That's why I have my NSS style blades deploy 3" outward and about 1" downward. Because someone else did the engineering on it before me...)

    Well done for whipping something up. You're sure into it a LOT fewer hours than I am on mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boonejeepin View Post
    I made it. 48" wide. Wood covered by fiberglass cloth.
    Looks just like what I did...



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    Trayson- I went with the hull extension (blade with no angle) as an experiment to see if there would be less steering drag when compared with a blade that extends past the side of the hull. In all honesty, I don't know if there is an difference in steering or wave between the designs as this is the only method that I have tested. I am happy with the result so I don't plan to try the angled blade version. I have about $125 into material and hardware and maybe 2-2.5 hrs including finding all the right tools in the garage and cleanup.

    My platform is very narrow at 48" but is almost completely out of the wave when listed or using the gate. The shape is virtually identical to yours. No coincidence as I looked at your platform before making mine.

    Parrothd - If I knew that hydroturf would stick to HDPE I would have gone that route vs wood covered in fiberglass. If I ever need to redo the platform I will likely use HDPE. So easy to work with and no chance of rot.
    2010 Moomba XLV
    340hp cat
    Gravity 3, wake plate
    Rad-a-cage

    I have a love for ballast and large wakes.
    1100 v-drive lockers
    1180 under the playpen
    + lead and a collection of other ballast bags

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